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Old Aug 5, 2004 | 05:13 PM
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Default 1)powder coated to ceramic coated... 2)strut tower nuts

i'm in need of a little tutorial.

i believe powdercoating only lengthens the life of a part/ product, while ceramic coating absorbs/ eliminates the heat? and lengthens the life as well. inputs?

2nd question: am i only supposed to hand tighten the top nuts on the strut after removing-replacing the spring-shock assembly?

lol. just saving some space and bandwidth.
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Old Aug 5, 2004 | 08:59 PM
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I think powdercoating is for appearance.
Ceramic coating acts as an insulator. Keeps some of the heat inside but not all.
For your other ? , is that a joke? Tighten that ****.
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Old Aug 6, 2004 | 02:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eda6 hb &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For your other ? , is that a joke? Tighten that ****.</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol. then horsepower tv on spike tv needs to do more research on that(crx project). i just watched the show, and they mentioned to handtighten the nuts on the strut tower??? huh??? so i was left clueless, since i always wrench it down or tighten it to specs.
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Old Aug 6, 2004 | 06:46 AM
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they said that for ease of lower fork installation....I guess they just left out the tightening step
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Old Aug 6, 2004 | 10:48 AM
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right. bumpity bump.
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Old Aug 7, 2004 | 08:05 PM
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Powder coating, mainly thermosets, are used for aethetics, IE Eye candy, Thermoplastics are mostly used for function, IE the white coating on wire shelving is actually Nylon, which is a powder applied thermo plastic. Some thermosets can be used for function aswell, mainly epoxy or TGIC's. Ceramic coating is used to create a thermal barrier which keeps heat, in, or out, or both. there are some high temperature powders availible, limited in color, but they have no performance gain, and frankly just suck. They'll eventually burn off unless used on something with low EGT's.
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Old Aug 8, 2004 | 12:28 PM
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wow. you just broke it down "barney". thanx a bunch. i'm still trying to absorb this newly found info. do most powdercoating use thermoplastics? are they long-lasting?
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 09:32 PM
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The powders you usually see applied are thermosets. They come in a larger variety of colors and are readily availible. Thermoplastics are much more exspensive, limited in color, and are useless unless you need something coated in it, such as halar for medical use, or nylon for wire shelving and other abrasion seeing items. Thermoplastics are softer than thermo sets, but have a higher tensile strength, impact resistance, abrasion resistance, and are an incredible electrical insulator, thus why its used in medical fields such as forcepts and electrodes. Thermosets are just that, they are thermally cured, and are set in place forever. They can not be remelted/reflowed or anything. Thermoplastics are thermally heated, usually at much higher temps than thermosets, and can be remelted and will reflow out to give a flawless finish.
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 09:55 PM
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Thanks for the lesson in thermo plastic coating, that was awesome but did it answer his question? If you go with ceramic coating there is a minor increase in power over a non-coated header. It keeps the heat in where it belongs and also lowers engine compartment temperature. As for powdercoating. Probably not much better then painting a header like you are supposed to. Will last longer than a painted header but the performance. Not much if any over a painted header. They do look better most of the time though then painted. But I still think ceramic looks better as well.

As for the struts tighten those things down. Not to 150lb ft but definitely tighter then hand tightened.
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Old Aug 10, 2004 | 10:06 PM
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great info TRG-coating

as far as the dampers, if your talking about the self locking nut that goes on the damper shaft you need to tighten that to 22ft-lbs

and if your talking abou the spring hat they go to 36ft-lbs
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 04:06 AM
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to the commnt on horse power tv....they said hand tighten untill they put the car down......... pay attention.....................
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 04:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sack Master &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for the lesson in thermo plastic coating, that was awesome but did it answer his question? If you go with ceramic coating there is a minor increase in power over a non-coated header. It keeps the heat in where it belongs and also lowers engine compartment temperature. As for powdercoating. Probably not much better then painting a header like you are supposed to. Will last longer than a painted header but the performance. Not much if any over a painted header. They do look better most of the time though then painted. But I still think ceramic looks better as well.

As for the struts tighten those things down. Not to 150lb ft but definitely tighter then hand tightened.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i understand their benefits. i just wanted to know the difference in terms of what you can apply it to, the length of life and a another question i can't remember anymore

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fastest &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">to the commnt on horse power tv....they said hand tighten untill they put the car down......... pay attention.....................</TD></TR></TABLE>

i'm sure they know what they're talking about. i paid attention all throughout the segment. i thought they we're reading through a teleprompter and somebody typed it wrong. i'm aware i have to torque down shock tower nuts, i was unsure, whether or not i was doing something wrong torquing nuts down. thanx.
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 10:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 03ephatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i understand their benefits. i just wanted to know the difference in terms of what you can apply it to, the length of life</TD></TR></TABLE>

My bad. I was thinking you were referring to a header. In any other case it's probably not much use ceramic coating stuff. That is the point where the most heat is generated. As for the powdercoating deal that would probably be a much better option on most other parts that aren't producing very high tempertaures such as an exhaust. Sorry for my misunderstanding.
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