Hi everyone;

I bit the bullet and bought some quality speakers to replace the broken OEM ones in the doors of the 92' DX Civic.

My problem though is that they're too big for the brackets!

I cut out the back of one of the brackets but that still doesn't help because the diameter of the upper area of the basket is larger than that of the opening of the bracket.

I already dealt with the signal posts (they were in the way) but still there are no visible holes which match up with the mounting holes already in the bracket.

Moreover, I am not able to mount the speaker directly to the door frame because there are only holes for mounting the speaker bracket/basket.

I'm sure somebody has delt with such a problem like this before, specifically with a Civic... what can I do short of putting the speakers in the rear which I don't want to do because they have tweeters on them and it may cause a staging conflict.

Please help! Thank you

 

Depending on the series of rocford speakers you got, depth will be a problem also. What you should do is get 1/2" MDF and router yourself some new speaker adapters.

 

take a picture of the door - it's been a long time since I have worked on one

I'd also look at the sounddomain member pages for ideas

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by teamxtant &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Depending on the series of rocford speakers you got, depth will be a problem also. What you should do is get 1/2" MDF and router yourself some new speaker adapters. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I also posted this delehmah on Sounddomain member forums and they basically said the same thing, make a custom bracket our of MDF.. I need to purchase a new tool to cut this stuff with because my last rotary tool is dead.

And that picture you wanted wanted to see:

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Paprika &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hi everyone;

I bit the bullet and bought some quality speakers to replace the broken OEM ones in the doors of the 92' DX Civic.

My problem though is that they're too big for the brackets!

I cut out the back of one of the brackets but that still doesn't help because the diameter of the upper area of the basket is larger than that of the opening of the bracket.

I already dealt with the signal posts (they were in the way) but still there are no visible holes which match up with the mounting holes already in the bracket.

Moreover, I am not able to mount the speaker directly to the door frame because there are only holes for mounting the speaker bracket/basket.

I'm sure somebody has delt with such a problem like this before, specifically with a Civic... what can I do short of putting the speakers in the rear which I don't want to do because they have tweeters on them and it may cause a staging conflict.

Please help! Thank you</TD></TR></TABLE> There are two things you can do, first, the simple thing is to make a " depth reducer", just a ring made out of MDF with an inside diameter that fits your speaker and thick enough so speaker magnet will clear window guide, second, a little harder, but much better for SQ,is what teamxtant said, make new speaker mounting panels, use the the oem ones as a template on some 1/2" MDF so you get the right shape for mounting to the door, the rest will just be thick enough MDF ,[or stack of MDF] ring/rings glued together to give depth needed for speaker, the advantage of makeing the mount is mass, the more mass the speaker is mounted to the better the SQ. 94

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> There are two things you can do, first, the simple thing is to make a " depth reducer", just a ring made out of MDF with an inside diameter that fits your speaker and thick enough so speaker magnet will clear window guide, second, a little harder, but much better for SQ,is what teamxtant said, make new speaker mounting panels, use the the oem ones as a template on some 1/2" MDF so you get the right shape for mounting to the door, the rest will just be thick enough MDF ,[or stack of MDF] ring/rings glued together to give depth needed for speaker, the advantage of makeing the mount is mass, the more mass the speaker is mounted to the better the SQ. 94</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your simple method sounds nice but
1) wouldn't the thinkness of the depth reducer be equal to that of the amount of the frame which cannont fit into the OEM bracket?

2) With all this moving of the driver more away from the door there is going to be a contest between the driver and the OEM grill to see who stays, basically the grill won't be able to go on because the hooks have no room because the speaker is right up against the door panel.... no?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Paprika &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Your simple method sounds nice but
1) wouldn't the thinkness of the depth reducer be equal to that of the amount of the frame which cannont fit into the OEM bracket?

2) With all this moving of the driver more away from the door there is going to be a contest between the driver and the OEM grill to see who stays, basically the grill won't be able to go on because the hooks have no room because the speaker is right up against the door panel.... no?</TD></TR></TABLE>


On both counts...you just have to take plenty of measurements, do testfits, and trim what is needed. If I can get the stock grill over this, you can get the stock grille over a reducer.

 

to get more room you can remove the origianl bracket and modify it a bit or completely rid of it.

 

or do what i tend to do, cut out the backside of the factory basket, and dremel out any of the inner area that gets in the way. Then to hold the speaker down use some self-tappers long enough to go thru the speaker mounts, the plastic basket, and mount into the door its self.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rjr162 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">or do what i tend to do, cut out the backside of the factory basket </TD></TR></TABLE>Done that, helped w/ depth but not with basket size.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rjr162 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dremel out any of the inner area that gets in the way. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Too much dremeling to solve my problem.;..

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rjr162 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Then to hold the speaker down use some self-tappers long enough to go thru the speaker mounts, the plastic basket, and mount into the door its self. </TD></TR></TABLE> If you need to do that then the speaker is not sealed to the door nor the bracket and may cause sound problems, no?

georgelb - Your grills are much more different than mine which have clips that go into the same hole the speaker would be protruding out of, and if the speaker is so big there is no room for the clips to get in and hook to the door panel then they won't go on. Nah mean?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Paprika &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Your simple method sounds nice but
1) wouldn't the thinkness of the depth reducer be equal to that of the amount of the frame which cannont fit into the OEM bracket?

2) With all this moving of the driver more away from the door there is going to be a contest between the driver and the OEM grill to see who stays, basically the grill won't be able to go on because the hooks have no room because the speaker is right up against the door panel.... no?</TD></TR></TABLE> If one won't work, two will, I have installed 6.5" rockfords in a 92 civic so I know it will work. 94

 

I had to trim the cap for to fit a 6.5'' speaker in my civic HB.

 

umm.. what cap?

 

Just take some measurements and make some MDF ones, your speakers will sound a lot better than with those crappy stock plastic ones in.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Xsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just take some measurements and make some MDF ones, your speakers will sound a lot better than with those crappy stock plastic ones in.</TD></TR></TABLE>Dito that. 94