i just got it a week ago its pretty much stock except for an AEM cold air intake a pipe and i shaved the heads to give me better take off but what i really crave is and engine swap money really isnt a big issue i got about 4000 bucks in the back but i dont know what i should do an H22a swap or an F20B i can get the H22a for $2150.00 plus shipping and handling and the F20B for $2899.00 also after the swap what should i do to get alot of power i dont wanna turbo or supercharge it cuz i will be using it as a daily driver i got it for 1900 from a dealership not including that tax and all that other **** its got 120k miles its stick shift and runs good considering its 14 years old i had a friend of my brother who is a mechanic look it over b4 i got it and he told me the motor would be good till about 250-300k miles that its in good shape and so is the rest of the car but i need more power so im probably gonna get rid of the motor depending on what u people tell me

thanx in advance for ur help

 

If the motor is still healthy and has good compression....i say turbo that motor.

 

^^^ alot of peeps told me including the mechanic that if i turbo a 1990 LX motor im going to have to hit the gas station every 2 blocks

 

umm....not if you get it tuned right.

 

well it dont matter im not interested in forced induction so what should i do engine wise which one should i swap into the car and what should i put on it

 

Throw in a H22A then.

 

Get the H22

 

and what other mods should i do to get it running like 300-350 horses without any forced induction

 

hey i am kidn of on the same boat. my car is 78k, 90 ex, and i am trying to learn things regarding it. i only have 700 in the bank go figure... so swaps, high-cost things aren't for me.

i am wondering what i can do as well..

 

300 - 350 N/A? have fun...

 

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hmmm...turn that h22 into an ls1

 

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GL bro...it would cost you a LOT of money.

Cams, pistons, ecu, lightened/reinforced rods, valve springs, probably a bore of the block (to a 2.4L), throttle body, upgraded intake manny, fuel rail, injectors, ignition. Things I can think off hand would not only cost a ton (5-6K at least) but only give you probably 300whp.

NA is expensive.

 

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why? if your motor is making that much horsepower, it wouldnt run on pump gas and the gas mileage is similar if not worst than FI(try itb, they idle like crap and use as much gas as low boost turbo). if you think all motor is safer, well, not if it's making 350-400 whp. With much less money you can get it up there with turbo.

 

ok fine fine u guys have changed my mind what should i do boost the stock engine or swap the engines and save up for boost

 

well, do a compression test and if it checks out well, you would be better off turboing that one. you can run 8ish psi daily without problems. the problem with h22's is that the internals dont lend themselves well to boosting, so you would have to spend a good deal of money on that engine getting it ready to turbo, then spend even more on actually turboing it

 

First off, I have a question. The F20B that you spoke of for 2899...does that come with the tranny? If you know of a place where I can get an F20B tranny...please let me know.

I say drop in the H22 with an F20B tranny if you can get a hold of one and then save up for boost.

 

heres the site where i got my prices from u cant just buy the tranny u gotta get the set but i thought id let u know and if u guys are telling me that boosting the h22a is gonna be alot of money cuz of compression would the F20B lend itself better to boost

 

bump for an answer

 

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no they share nearly the same compression (I think the f20 is a little higher)...the f20 is basically a destroked h22.

 

300 whp??? Crank, pistons, rods, cams, all the bolt ons, valves, ecu, rocker arms, cam gears, fuel pump, all the fuel upgrades, tuning, money, money and more money.

 

iight thanx

 

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is it just me...or did you forget the site.

from what i know about the F20B...it is virtually the same as the H22 with a shorter stroke...and a better tranny. I believe it has the same internal problems that the H22's have as far as the shitty ringlands and the FRM block.

Meaning, that if you were to build an F20B for boost. you would have to do the same precautionary measures that you would need to do to an H22... i.e. pistons and sleeves. Which are going to run you basically the same amount of money no matter which engine you choose. I would get the H22 because of the longer stroke.

 

H22a It is

 

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Yay!

 

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