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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 08:26 PM
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Default Koni Yellows + GC Coilovers VS Full coilover system

This is what I have in mind based on the Research and SEARCH I have done so far

Koni yellows with GC coilovers
Spring Rate : 400 Front /450 Rear
Spring Length : 8" Front / 7" Rear

I think the set up needed will vary based on the car & driver profile, type of usage etc… Car profile: 4 door 99 Integra GSR with Type-R sway bar running on Falken Azenis. Car will be used as a daily driver also but I am ready for daily ride compromises for a good Auto-x set up. I have only six months of Auto-x experience but have been doing well on the Novice classes.


Is there any other set up or full coil over set up that gives the same kind of performance for the price as the GC + Koni set up for Auto-x

Anyone used this?
K-Sport Full Coilovers Acura Integra 94-01 Coil Over

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...=WDVW

btw I have enrolled into the evolution school already as I understand that spending time and money on the driver is more important than the car

Thanks
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 08:39 PM
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Default Re: Koni Yellows + GC Coilovers VS Full coilover system (bemathew)

i have the same rates on my civic, and it works well and i can drive the car daily.
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 08:52 PM
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stick with koni's
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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 12:39 AM
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i'm on 450F 550 R GC + koni yellows, daily drivability is fine, imo.

there's no reason to get something more expensive than GC/Koni.
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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 06:45 AM
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just curious, does GC normally package all of their kits with 8" springs up front, and 7" in the rear? Is there anything wrong with going with the same length spring all around? (8" or 7" All around)
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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 11:22 AM
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my springs are 8" all around, if i'm not mistaken.
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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 12:57 PM
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There is nothing wrong with running different free lengths front and rear.

I use 600/800 f/r, had to drive it to work every day for 6 weeks and think it's fine to drive every day, but everyone doesn't agree.

If you're ordering custom spring rates, specify the free lengths you want when you tell them what rates you want.

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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 01:01 PM
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What is the purpose of a 7" as opposed to an 8" length? Greater/lesser overall shock travel when everything is mounted and the car is on the ground? I really have no idea.
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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 06:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sscguy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What is the purpose of a 7" as opposed to an 8" length? Greater/lesser overall shock travel when everything is mounted and the car is on the ground? I really have no idea.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Shock travel is unaffected - the spring will compress the same amount (given equal rates) regardless of length.

The spring length can be a factor when you go to high rates where the static compression of the spring is zero or near zero. For example, I have 1000lb springs on the back of the Integra. They don't compress AT ALL when the car is sitting on the ground. So for my particular shocks, a 6" spring puts the spring seat near the top of its adjustment range at a high-ish ride height. I can then lower it a bit if I want.

By contrast, with an 8" spring of the same rate, the perch would be at the very bottom of the collar and my ride height would probably be stupid high, like a RWD drag car.

Does that make sense?
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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 06:26 PM
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It does, thanks

Though it also brings up another question: what is the ideal length for a roadracing/tracking application? Given that you'd want a lowish ride height, I'd imagine it couldn't be too long, but I'd also assume you'd want some adjustability, correct? I understand it would vary upon vehicle, but any sort of general idea?
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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 06:29 PM
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krshultz's explanation is exactly why I use 8" front and 6" rear
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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 07:11 PM
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well, I guess I'd like to go with the same lengths front and rear so I can have the option of swapping springs front to back or vice versa. I guess an added bonus of having a shorter 7" spring is that there is less chance of the spring rubbing the GC threaded sleave if they move around a little, since there is less spring surrounding the GC sleeve. Right? I'm sure a 450 to 550 spring rate range on a 3100lb Accord with TONS of suspension travel and only a moderate lowering using 7" springs should not give me any trouble with perch settings right?
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