http://www.superstreetonline.com/edi...=text&id=17238

I just thought some of you might be interested in this.

OR maybe even this...
http://forums.off-topic.net/showthre...5&pagenumber=1

DAMN, there are some naive people out there.

 

YD, im gonna have to back you up on this.

 

Thanks! We gotta stick together guys.

 

Yup, gonna have to back YD up on this one too. I think the WRX is a nice car, with a nice ride, a nice interior, nice sound deadning material, and a lot of other nice things. I'm sure you get my point, i'll stick with the rawness of my ITR! A friend of mine took me for a ride in his WRX, and then let me take it for a quick spin. I said thanks man that was cool, handles pretty good. Then i took him for a ride in my R and all i heard was oh ****!

 

The WRX is cool, but i would only get one if i lived where it showed. Can you say,"i am Colin McCrae"(not a suby driver, but you get my piont). Im sure its tons of fun in the snow, but for road racing or Auto-X, ITR all the way.

 

i like how in the article they say the wrx doesn't come w/ yellow paint scheme, i seem to remember a limited edition blaze yellow paint scheme, i guess those writers really did their research oh and if you're going to go argue with those wrx people don't forget to mention the limited number of type-r's made making them all the more valuable and whatnot -rob

 

the replies are so stupid in there that i dont even want to bother with it.

 

Blind loyalty. They would probably put down an M3 too if someone were to post M3 vs. WRX... Idiots.

 

then they would start saying "M3 is WAY outta the WRX class!" even though theyre comparing an R32 to an ITR

 

Hey YD, I've seen a WRX at a road course though it was mostly in my mirrors!!

 

WRX's are pathetically common here in Australia now that it's tragically hated by the majority.

STi's on the other hand....

 

How is it that superstreet can test the scoob at 6.7s to 60, and Car and Driver (as shown on the subaru commercials) can test it at 5.4s to 60. I'll tell you .. because they all test differently and in different settings. That's why no one should base their entire opinion of a car on what magazines say. Just pick a car you like and drive it -long live the R

 

I've seen you drive. Oh **** is right.

How do you like the snow out today? I have a nice set of snow tires but I have to pull all the studs out. arghh

 

Good to hear! I've faced them at the AutoX only and I've had no problems taking them out. I can't wait to see them on the roadcourse though. I have faced numerous 2.5 RS's (one was even turbo'd).

 

I'd have to say ditto to that, except I've had 3 experiences with stock WRX's at the track. Every time I raced one they would get the jump in first gear then I would pull on them the rest of the way down. AWD is cool and I think that they have pretty nice interior, but I too love the rawness of my ITR. My car is stock as well and I usually run around the 14.8-9 area.

 

You guys have to understand that sometimes us R owners (and used-to-be R owners) make it sound like our car is "the best" car out there. Now I wouldn't mind saying that it's the best car that I've ever drove or that I can ever afford. But sometimes you have to be honest with yourself.

A Subaru WRX does have it's strong points. Well so does an ITR. These cars are so closely matched that it's really up to the driver to get the most out of it stock for stock.

And some may argue that the WRX is in an entirely different class. Keep in mind that the general market does not take into account whether a car with FWD should be compared to an AWD. All they care about is 0-60 times, the name of the car company, and if it's the most for the least amount of money.

I'd say there is a list full of cars that can out perform an ITR. But when it comes down to it, nothing can take me away from my experience with the ITR.

Sure you can buy the WRX. Sure you can get an R32 Skyline. But I like the DC2 Integra Type R and I'm not going to say it's the best. Come the next chance to buy one, you bet your *** I'm gonna get me another DC2 ITR. Personally I don't give a **** if someone next to me has a 1000HP Subaru WRX with Sequential Gearbox, I'd do quite fine with my 163 whp Acura Integra Type R.

And those magazine guys...All I know is when it comes time for them to go home, they're in a luxury four-door sedan crusing home at the speed limit.

 

haha. Well, I'm sure *most* of us are biased...but then again most of us here are educated and speak (errr...type) before we start blabbing nonsense.

I've driven the WRX and I just wasn't overly imprezzed (pun intended).

I will agree though that there are better cars than the ITR. I'm not close-minded. The S2000 comes to mind. As you can probably see (if you've been here as long as me), many former ITR owners are now S2000 owners. It really is a great car. I drove one for the first time about a month ago.

Under $25k...I can't think of many cars that I would take over the ITR. I thought about a '94+ Supra TT before purchasing my R...but I couldn't justify the amount of $$ for a used car with all the mileage.

 

i would agree guy's the wrx is a nice car, but i wasnt really all that impressed....very nice ride blah blah...i was more impressed when i drove my type-r home from the dealership. and what is up with those ugly *** red wires all through the type-r's engine...yuck

 

I wanted to post in the offtopic, but then I would only have like 1-2 posts. No point in posting because it might make things worse. YD, you can basically take what I am saying here to the offtopic if you like to.

A lot of folks don't get the drawbacks of AWD! We have the ITR and WRX with closely matched 1/4 mile times... the WRX will obviously have an awesome launch, but the ITR doesn't. Let's take these two cars on the highway and we'll see which car dies out at the top-end first.

I've been into my friend's ITR (stock with CAI), and it was actually two people inside the R. My friend raced a WRX (looks stock) with only the driver, and he was raping the WRX after the ITR shifted into 4th. AWD is a good thing to have, but now the AWD car is powering two unnecessary wheels at higher speeds.

And I raced a chipped Audi S4 with my Teg...both of our cars have closely matched 1/4mile performance (low 13's), but once the S4 gets up to 160 km/h, I can pass it easily. Above 220 km/h I am not sure because I think I am lacking some torque to push at that high of a speed since I am naturally aspirated Once I fall off my powerband, I am dead meat

 

lol, you guys are almost as funny as the people on that board.
Those of you who drove a WRX at the lot and weren't impressed, may have had a beaten on Rex, or just were expecting a R34. I mean, it is handsdown faster in a straight line, and I'd argue on a course (not a tiny one). I'd gladly meet anyone at a road course, AutoX, or dragstrip. Throttle controlled 4wheel drifts are much more fun than understeering. Remember, I've driven several ITR, and had different C5 setups (in Integras), so I'm being impartial.

-C

 

Make sure you have the brakes upgraded on the WRX first before it can outrun an ITR on a road course. The stock brakes on the WRX are too weak.

In addition, the ITR is infamous of being neutral (aka 4 wheel drift) when going around a corner, despite the fact that it is fwd:
Brake into a turn, tail steps out.
Foot on the gas, front plows.
These 2 actions combine together ---> 4 wheel drift.

So the cornering performance would not be slower than the awd WRX. For those who have taken the ITR to the track know what I'm talking about.

 

You were kidding around right? Because I don't think we're as immature, close-minded, and ignorant as those over there...

 

The WRX has twin piston 11.4" front disks and 10.3"(bigger than gsr fronts) rears. Those are Huge! The braking is AWESOME stock. Much better than a teg (I've had two).

Yeah, I know what you mean about a 4 wheel slide. I was refering to a 4 wheel drift where you are actually putting power to the ground and accelerating.

Don't get me wrong, I love me some ITR (best fwd ever), but the WRX has so much more potential IMO.

 

yeah, I am. Y'all are no doubt the cockiest, closeminded people on H-T, but not immature. Home sweet home!

where is Dan (God) when you need him?

 

If what you say is true...... they're ugly as sin

sackdz - who wishes the JDM-style WRX was here