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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 03:50 PM
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I was just wondering how many quarts of oil i should use in my 99 SI since i am doing its first oil change on it tomorrow. Also, which is the best kind of non-syn. oil, pref. 5w30. Plz dont hate on this thread, my *used* car didnt come with manual and i dnot have helms, haynes etc.
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 03:55 PM
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you should use four quarts of oil and it is always better to go with a full synthetic or semi-sythetic preffibly Mobil 1. But if you don't want a synthetic go with Pennzoil.
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 03:56 PM
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3.6-4 every car is different
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 03:57 PM
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whoa.. 99 si with first oil change..

if u dont hit 8k rpms everyday no point of geting synthetic. waste of money. any 5-30 will do.
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 04:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wizzards581 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

if u dont hit 8k rpms everyday no point of geting synthetic. waste of money. any 5-30 will do. </TD></TR></TABLE>

An extra 10 bucks every 3k miles. I'll spend it every time! Better safe than sorry.
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 04:17 PM
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4.2 qts

oil : just use whatever you want....everyone is going to have a preference so just choose something that you are comfortable with.
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 05:00 PM
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Lame question.
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 05:02 PM
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hey man just cuase u know somethin someone else didnt doesnt mean the question is "lame" give the guy a break :/
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 05:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Art In Motion &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">3.6-4 every car is different </TD></TR></TABLE>
I AM RIGHT!

trust me im a honda tech, buy 4 quarts, pour about 3 and a half in, start the car, turn it off, check the dipstick, add accordingly until its slightly over the 2nd dot
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 05:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EM1VtecSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was just wondering how many quarts of oil i should use in my 99 SI since i am doing its first oil change on it tomorrow. Also, which is the best kind of non-syn. oil, pref. 5w30. Plz dont hate on this thread, my *used* car didnt come with manual and i dnot have helms, haynes etc. </TD></TR></TABLE>

it's in the manual (EDIT: sorry didn't overread that part)

4.2 qt

there is a point with synthetic also, i've driven my Si for about 116k miles and it runs just as well, if not better than when i bought it used

i've been using mobile1 fully synthetic since i got it, if used for it's life it will extend the life of the engine and help to reduce wear items in the engine

note: i replace my own oil here are the costs --

5 qt of Mobile1 Fully Synthetic 5w30 from wal-mart (big 5qt jug with transparent measure on side): $25
honda filter: ~$6-7

don't forget to lube the new filter with a quick rub from ur finger of the new oil, this will help to get it off much easier when you change it next time. The new honda filter also comes with a new washer for the oil drain bolt.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Art In Motion &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I AM RIGHT!

trust me im a honda tech, buy 4 quarts, pour about 3 and a half in, start the car, turn it off, check the dipstick, add accordingly until its slightly over the 2nd dot</TD></TR></TABLE>

please don't put in less than 4 quarts. The engine revs high and when vtec engages more oil is needed and used. You might even want to put in a slightly more than 4.2, maybe .1 or .2 more since some oil travels through the filter and thus is not in the engine at some moment. I've heard others call this charging the filter.


Modified by Sijray21 at 9:17 PM 7/29/2004


Modified by Sijray21 at 9:17 PM 7/29/2004


Modified by Sijray21 at 9:18 PM 7/29/2004
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 05:25 PM
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Castrol GTX non-syn 5w-30 ever since I had her and no complaints here. If your changing the oil yourself use a piece of sandpaper to grab the filter if your having trouble removing it. I know it always makes it easier for me.
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 05:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sijray21 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
please don't put in less than 4 quarts. The engine revs high and when vtec engages more oil is needed and used. You might even want to put in a slightly more than 4.2, maybe .1 or .2 more since some oil travels through the filter and thus is not in the engine at some moment. I've heard others call this charging the filter.
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thats why i said add it then check the dipstick i do oil changes on 4-5 civics a day, most are fine with 3.6-8 quarts of oil

edit- but people do say that VTEC motors burn oil faster...maybe start with 4
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 05:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Art In Motion &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
thats why i said add it then check the dipstick i do oil changes on 4-5 civics a day, most are fine with 3.6-8 quarts of oil

edit- but people do say that VTEC motors burn oil faster...maybe start with 4</TD></TR></TABLE>

i know it'll probably run fine with about 3.7, i just feel for an individual's car you might want to put in a little more. I remember a time i put in 3.5 qt and ran it b/c that was all the oil i had at the time and when i added about .5 more it felt alot better/smoother. Should run alright with 3.6-3.8 though. Plus i know the B16a2 for some dohc reasons uses a little more than other sohc civic's. I believe the sohc uses 3.8 (according to the manual), but i'm not completely positive.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 03:16 AM
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And please, do NOT forget to change the oil filter... Honda OEM filters are the way to go!!!

Do it with every oil change to have the everlasting engine...
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 04:56 AM
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the 3.6-4 number sounds like if yo'ure doing the oil change without changing the oil filter.. 4.2 gets me to the top dot when i do oil & filter change.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 05:17 AM
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Kinda OT BUT:

Where does 4.2 get you on the dipstick? Just wondering b/c some guy said go over the second dot, isnt that above max?

Im going to go back to changing my own oil since the guys at superlube always overfill it by a half a quart But till then I have had no problems.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 03:54 PM
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sohc = 3.5 qts
sohc vtec = 3.7 qts &lt;--- All off of honda service manuals
dohc vtec = 4.2 qts

Ths dispstick has two dots for a reason: the MINIMUM (bottom dot) and the MAXIMUM (top dot). If you put more than the top dot you will be replacing gaskets sooner...(ie. oil pan, valve cover, etc.) because you are putting more oil than necessary and it will try to force its way out. Correct level is at the top dot or maybe just a hair below it.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 07:25 PM
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i suggest you use the "made in germany" castrol syntec 0w-30 which is porsche approved. it can be found at some autozones?

or you can try bmw high performance synthetic 5w-30.

both are ACEA A3 oils for high performance/extended drain intervals.

can you list any other 30 weight oils that qualifies as an A3 oil?
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 07:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Art In Motion &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I AM RIGHT!

trust me im a honda tech, buy 4 quarts, pour about 3 and a half in, start the car, turn it off, check the dipstick, add accordingly until its slightly over the 2nd dot</TD></TR></TABLE>

my fathers cousin has been a honda-tech for like 18 years (hes a platinum level)
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 07:35 PM
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I been running Valvoline Max life 5w-30 for a while and its been doing fine..

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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 07:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 5w20 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sohc = 3.5 qts
sohc vtec = 3.7 qts &lt;--- All off of honda service manuals
dohc vtec = 4.2 qts

Ths dispstick has two dots for a reason: the MINIMUM (bottom dot) and the MAXIMUM (top dot). If you put more than the top dot you will be replacing gaskets sooner...(ie. oil pan, valve cover, etc.) because you are putting more oil than necessary and it will try to force its way out. Correct level is at the top dot or maybe just a hair below it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
correct
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 07:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondainspired &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

my fathers cousin has been a honda-tech for like 18 years (hes a platinum level) </TD></TR></TABLE>
.....and????
do you want a cookie?
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 08:11 PM
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anything wrong with using 10w30 on a gsr motor?
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 09:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondaeg8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anything wrong with using 10w30 on a gsr motor?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Dont see why not. I use 10w 30 Mobil1 Syn, but used a Pure 1 oil filter. Now i heard mixed reviews w/ OEM honda filters. They say the ones made in japan are the best and the american/canadian ones suck. Can anyone confirm or deny.
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