can anyone tell me wat is need from the 99-00 si rear disc conversion to do the swap onto a 00 EX? can some help me with a list of everything need so i know wat to look for.. thanx

btw which is better? the 98-01 gsr rear disc or 99-00 si?

a list of the gsr rear would be cool too and is it harder to do the gsr than the si?

thanx HT

 

You will need the complete trailing arm assembly (hubs/rotors/calipers), e-brake cables, and rear brake lines. Then you probly want to change you prop valve to a 40/40 and maybe your MC and booster.

wether or not you have or want to have ABS is something to think about to, or at least it is if you go with a 5 lug

 

so if i do the conversion i wont have ABS or will I? my 00 ex doesnt have ABS..

thanx bro

 

since abs doesnt work that way, no you wont have abs

 

ok kool thanx man

 

apreciate it.. people tell me so many things about wat to get that im all confused.. so that why im askin u HTers wats need..

so basically complete trailing arm assembly (hubs/rotors/calipers), e-brake cables, and rear brake lines from the GSR or 99-00 Si will work? can i still use my prop valve, MC and BB or do HAVE to swap that out too?

 

ur gonna want to change out the mc and bb for increased pedal feel, but thats mostly up to ur preference. the prop valve however is gonna need to be swapped for the rear disc 4040 one. thats for brake balance

 

If yours is an ex which i beleive you said it was. The master cylinder and brake booster are the same as the 99-2000 si's. All you need to get is a 99-2000 si proportioning valve. I have done this swap if you need to ask any questions. I put 99LS brakes on my 2000ex.

 

thanx guys.. so the trailing arm from an integra will fit the civic? in preferance which is better the Si or Integra rear disc?

 

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yes the Teg trailing arm will fit fine, as for which is better I am not really sure you might want to check the sizes.

Does anyone have a picture of a 40/40 prop valve?

 

Everything is identicat with the exception of the ABS sensors on the Integra. Just remove the ABS sensors if your civic doesn't have ABS. The trailing arms are the same as is the rotors and pads. The parking brake cables are a little bit shorter but they fit the same they are just stretched a little bit. But you need the brake hoses from an SI. i don't know if the Tegs are the same.

 

thanx for the info guys..

 

The prop valves do not look any different from an EX to SI. There is debate going on whether there is a difference or not. But i got one from an SI just to be safe.

 

sweet.. imma go look arround at the junk yard for the rears tommorow

 

the prop valves dont look different between any of the 96-00 civics

all eg/ek/dc trailing arms are identical
da arms are the same dimensions except the bushing is larger circumference - you can use it but it will be impossible to use get a good new bushing when you need it

 

The prop valves for EK civics are all the same except for the EX model. If you check the part numbers for the prop valves, it's the same thing for the CX, DX, HX, and SI.

This has been gone over a million times... the prop valves determine the flow of fluid to your lines... the reason why the SI and the base models use the same one is because of the proportions of the front and rear brakes... the size of the 10.5 (?) front and the 9.5 (?) rear SI brakes is proportional to the 9.5 front and drum base model brakes--hence the use of the same valve.

Now since you have an EX, if you don't switch the prop valve, you'll wear out the rears faster... so you need to get a new one from an SI or any of the others above. The EX brakes have the same in the front as the SI's, so when you get the prop valve, you'll essentially have SI brakes all around. You cannot get one of those 4040 ones (unless it says 4040 on the SI, etc.) because those only have 4 hard lines that connect to it (meaning the 4040 ones from an Integra or EG civic). The EK civics have the ones that attach to 6 lines.

Oh yeah, it's okay to use Integra e-brake cables. Some people say that it's an inch too short, and some say that it fits perfect (it fits perfect for me because that's what I used for my CTR Hybrid 4 x 100 setup)... but in any case, that's what the adjustor is for on your e-brake handle, because remember, every so often you gotta tighten those things, and that's where you do it from.

I learned how to change my 00 Civic LX to have Integra knuckles in the front and trailing arms in the back just by searching on this board... every single question as to what fits and etc. can be found by just using the search function.

 

so the prop valve for the CX, DX, HX, and SI are the same but not the Ex?
i thought the Si and Ex would have the same prop valve.

so what i have learned so far for a successfull rear disk set up, you need:
-99-00 civic Si OR 98-01 Intergra COMPLETE rear disk set up
(i.e: trailing arm, rotors, calipers, hubs, ETC)
-4040 prop valve.
-99-00 Si or 98-01Integra E-Brake line(debate-able on the integra line)
-99-00 Si brake lines
-99-00 Si Brake Master Cylinder (better safe than sorry)
and
-99-00 Si Brake Booster(" ")

sounds correct?

 

Gsr,ls, and si rta's are identical except like stated is the e-brake cable.
Even the brake lines are the same you just connect the teggy softline to the hardline already in your car

 

ok. but i thought the GSR rear disks are slightly larger

 

Nope, and before someone comes in and says their mother's sister's boyfriend told them they were take a look at the part numbers below, identical! Numbers compared are for a 2000 Civic Si, and a 2000 Integra GS-R.

And just to set the record straight, GS-Rs have slightly larger front caliper pistons than RS/LS/GS/SE Integras, but they use the same size rotors, and the same pads, rears are identical across all models of Civics and Integras.

42510-SR3-A11 DISK, RR. BRAKE (CLEAR) 2 2000 INTEGRA
42510-SR3-A11 DISK, RR. BRAKE (CLEAR) 2 2000 CIVIC

43018-S04-013 CALIPER SUB-ASSY., R. RR. 1 2000 INTEGRA
43018-S04-013 CALIPER SUB-ASSY., R. RR. 1 2000 CIVIC

 

SUCCESS!

thank you kind sir

 

u dont need the complete trailing arm.. u can unbolt the drums from the back.. there is torx bolts that u can unbolt and swap drums for disc

 

^^^by no meana am i calling the op a newb(4xxx posts)
But lets keep it simple for him. Yes uou can undo the torx bolts but lets keep it simple for him. Plus theyre torqued down like a mug

 

Have you looked at the state of your current rear suspension? When I did the swap I pulled the entire rear suspension off the SI cause it was in much better shape than my stock suspension (not the shocks and springs, just the linkages). NE winters and roads kill bushings and rust bolts. If you're in CA you're probably fine, but since the junkyard will probably throw those in for free, it's not a bad idea to have some spare bolts in case one breaks.

 

Prop valve has already been explained to you so Im just going to tell you that getting a 99-00 civic rear disc brake is a little easier to change than the integras. Why? because the E brake cables match perfectly with your civic. They are the correct length as well as the e brake brackets that are suppose to hold the cables. The integras cables are a little shorter so your going to have to play with loosening the E brake adjustment nut a little. But in reality both are find which ever you get.