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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 10:39 PM
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i heard when you paint a car with primer and it gets wet it holds moisture.. this true..? if so there a way to paint ur car primer and be all good. my paint is a lil shot... Thnx
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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 10:47 PM
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bump..i need to know this also!
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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 11:16 PM
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epoxy primer is a sealer but not sandable and expensive too.
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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 11:20 PM
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what about sand it, primer it and have it painted flat black or satan instead of leaving it in primer?
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 12:11 AM
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I was in autobody and was wondering the same thing and theres this type of primer where its ok to expose to outside conditions but when you get around to painting you have to sand it down some. But in most cases, dont even bother. and what are you worried about it for? Are you primering your car for the looks or becasue you plan on painting just dont have all the money yet, if its for looks, just sand the clear coat off and primer over that and you'll be fine.
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 08:00 AM
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well for now yes i am going for look.. later i want to paint, now should i just use flat black if im going for looks or still use primer.. what would be better
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 08:28 AM
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flat black
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 08:45 AM
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You should be fine with some regular primer off the shelf at walmart. Remember my car I was fine with primer on there through out the winter. Actually now that I think about it I had 3 cars that sat in primer for a decent amount of time.
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 09:27 AM
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 11:51 AM
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although i agree with it being ugly (as ive had to look at it for the past 2 years) You can pick up anytype (except rustoleum, has too many chemicals in it and sprays uneven and rough) and just sand the clear coat off and have at it. Later though if you plan to repaint, all the rattle can primer has to come 100% off or else it will leave what looks like water marks but they will be permenant and caused from the chemicals in the primer and the chemical in the paint not being compatable, honestly, dont do it. Just get whatever you have now buffed and waxed and save up for a new paint job.
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 09:13 PM
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im not saying it looks the best .. but my paint is not even worth waxing and buffing like.. its bad, so flat black??? or still use some primer. hey rob how many cans did u use?
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 10:06 PM
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well if you want to go through with it i'd say flat black. Although it looks tacky, primers even worse. The one good thing about flat black is that its hard for police radars to pick you up (in speed traps and stuff) because the radar in the gun has to bounce of something (obviously meaning a reflection) and it cant do that on flat black cars unless it hits the license plate or sometimes the windshield. Well thats what i was told by my step dad who works at the office and i did a project on school about radar guns and profiling.
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 10:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LsFrnknstn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i heard when you paint a car with primer and it gets wet it holds moisture.. this true..? if so there a way to paint ur car primer and be all good. my paint is a lil shot... Thnx
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you dont primer your car, and leave it PRIMERED!! You primer it PRIOR to painting it.. ILLSHOT stunna!
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 11:12 PM
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I know you dont leaqve it primer.. but instead of having my car faded to pink and faded so bad its white in spots and chipped all over the place i figure just throw a flat black coat on make all one color for now, and i can get a paint job down the road sometime after winter
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 06:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LsFrnknstn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im not saying it looks the best .. but my paint is not even worth waxing and buffing like.. its bad, so flat black??? or still use some primer. hey rob how many cans did u use?

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Why don't you stop making fun of Dave first of all

Second you keep on saying flat black or primer. Do you mean flat black paint?? Cause remember on my car I had flat black primer. Why don't you do that? And I used about 3 cans to primer the car.

The guy above who said that you have to sand off all of the primer is half right. You don't have to sand it all off if you did it right the first time. You do have to sand it cause of all of the grease from people touching it, dead bugs from driving, bird poop, dust, and other things will mess up the outcome of your paint later on.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 10:39 AM
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lol i aint making fun of dave fist of all... yea when i say flat black i mean flat black paint, or should i use flat black primer. or does it matter. An is there any bran name paint i should pick up. i plan on doing this sunday-monday

o ya what did u use to sand it down with, sandpapper ? what grit, or can i use one of them red scotch pads ???
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 10:49 AM
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Flat black primer for one reason would be better....which is because it would be easier to clean up once you decide to paint your car. Call me up this weekend and I'll let you know what primer to use.

Hey I'm not the one that change your post....you said it So stop making fun of Dave.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 12:04 PM
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i didnt say nothing..lol but im prolly gonna do it monday.. ill get it all sanded down or what ever sunday night... should i use sandpaper or scotch pad ???
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 12:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LsFrnknstn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i didnt say nothing..lol but im prolly gonna do it monday.. ill get it all sanded down or what ever sunday night... should i use sandpaper or scotch pad ???</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would use 400 grit sand paper. But if you can find that than use 360 sand paper

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it says right in the quotes that you said it, so I think you made fun of dave. Its not like I'd change you post to say that.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 12:42 PM
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if you paint you car whole primmer it just make it tacky, you better of leaving it off and save up money, paint the whole thing.
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Old Jul 30, 2004 | 01:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by maxoutracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you paint you car whole primmer it just make it tacky, you better of leaving it off and save up money, paint the whole thing.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Tacky till it dries. Then after it dries than you don't have any issues with it. Either that or you're doing it wrong.
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 05:19 PM
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ROB....What kind of primer?? Im sandind it down tongiht, paint hopefully tomrrow night or monday
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 09:04 PM
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The guy above who said that you have to sand off all of the primer is half right. You don't have to sand it all off if you did it right the first time. You do have to sand it cause of all of the grease from people touching it, dead bugs from driving, bird poop, dust, and other things will mess up the outcome of your paint later on. </TD></TR></TABLE>

no , you DO have to sand it ALL off not just because of the grease, but also because of the chemicals in the primer. That type of primer isnt meant for cars. The only company as of now with a auto paint (PPG, house of kolors, etc) compatable spray primer is Du Pont which is going to cost you a little over 5$ a can, other wise 100% of any other type of primer has to be sanded off before painting because the different chemicals with leave what look like water marks but are unremovalbe and caused by a chemical reaction. So it ALL has to come off no matter how good you do it the first time if your usuing non Du Pont rattle can primer.
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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 05:39 PM
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Anyone.. got an idea of what prime i should use
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Old Aug 2, 2004 | 06:06 AM
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no , you DO have to sand it ALL off not just because of the grease, but also because of the chemicals in the primer. That type of primer isnt meant for cars. The only company as of now with a auto paint (PPG, house of kolors, etc) compatable spray primer is Du Pont which is going to cost you a little over 5$ a can, other wise 100% of any other type of primer has to be sanded off before painting because the different chemicals with leave what look like water marks but are unremovalbe and caused by a chemical reaction. So it ALL has to come off no matter how good you do it the first time if your usuing non Du Pont rattle can primer. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Still not convinced, sorry. Explain how you're gonna get a chemical reation out of something that's already been thru a chemical reation. When you spray primer out of a rattle can then it goes thru a chemical reation as it dries. But now what if you use water based primer?? No chemical reation AT ALL. Shoot the paint on and you still don't get "water marks" cause there is nothing in water based primer that is gonna create a chemical reation when the paint sees it.
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