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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 12:14 AM
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Hey There
Im planning to drop my 97 Accord
Im pretty new to doing stuff w/ my car so i need help
Im planning to get eibach springs - pro kit
I also heard its good to get the front and back strut bars but i dont really know which ones are good so i need help with this stuff
If you live by me and can hook me up pm me
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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 01:24 AM
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Hey! I live in Rosemead. Is your question on strut bars? IMO strut bar are all the same. I like neuspeed ones but again IMO your buying a brand name piece of bar. I know the neuspeeds or brand name ones may feel a little stiffer then the non-brand namers but for that little difference I dont think the extra $100 is worth it. Again this is my opinion, I still think its just a metal bar slaped with either a brand name sticker or a non-brand name sticker. Plus you probably wont feel much of a difference unless you plan to take mad turns, but I dont have a strut bar right now so my opinion may no count. What kind of strut bar are you interested in? I have some hook ups so just hit me up with what kind even if its non-brand namer cause I can probably get that cheaper too.

What do you have on your car and what color? Maybe I've seen you before or you seen me. I had a 98 white sedan v6 accord dropped and white housing headlights before but now my sister drives that and I drive a 2000 coupe 5speed w/ black housed headlights and its about to be dropped.
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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 10:13 AM
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I Drive a Total Stock 97 HOnda Accord Metallic Purple with some funky *** rims on a stock spoiler Car that my sister handed down to me...... she bought a new 04 accord coupe so now im driving her old car. Im hopeing go find someone out there that will get me a package deal which includes dropping my car and adding struts and what ever needs to be added for a smooth ride.
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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 10:18 AM
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Default Re: Dropping Car! What shall I do (yellowdcn)

wait bout a month and i ll have some custom omnipower coilovers availabel for the accord!

search omnipower if you dont konw what they are.. youll be more then happy~
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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 11:36 AM
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Hey man, I have pro-kits on my 94 coupe also. They're great springs and in my opinion a great mild drop for the car. You probably want to look into getting some shocks with those springs as well and install them all at the same time. I have KYB-AGXs and they're great.

-Chris
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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 01:50 PM
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Wat Are Coil Overs Compared To Springs ??
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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 06:54 PM
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This is from Trinituner:

"Coilover Suspensions

Why are they so popular and do they really improve the handling of a car. In theory, when you lower your car, you also lower it center of gravity therefore reducing body roll, thus improving its handling. However, handling characteristic of the car are not only determined by the center of gravity. You also have to consider the dampening system, spring rate, condition of the road, side-walls of your tires, unsprung weight, tire grip, geometry of the suspension and so on. Right now we are only interested in the ever so popular coilover set up. There are a lot of aftermarket manufacturers coming up with different brands and types of coilovers. Coilovers are popular with racers due to their adjustability. You can adjust the right height and in some cases you can also adjust the dampening thus produce superb handling.

There are two type of coilovers. They are true coilovers and sleeve type coilovers. True coilovers are a set up where the shocks have a threaded-body, when as the other one utilize a 'sleeve type' thread. One of the older, well-known manufacturer for coilovers is H&R. Now, there are different companies such as Tein, Intrax, etc also making coilovers. However, Ground Control was the pioneer of sleeve designed coilovers. We have no doubt about the benefits of true coilovers. But what about the sleeve type'? Does it work? In theory, it works the same as true coilovers. In real life, it doesn't even come close to the non coilovers shocks and springs setups.

Ground Control, the pioneer in sleeve design technology' utilizes aluminum body sleeve with Eibach race springs. The base of the spring is supported with a single rotational plate with an Allen screw-locking device. What's wrong with this design you ask? Like all 'sleeve type' coilovers, there is good chance for the sleeve to rotate and thus make the spring slip. This can happen to the enthusiast drivers who like to push the car to the limit. The other thing that worries me is the Allen screw-locking device. A screw that small is given the duties to hold the tension and twist that are generated by the car when an enthusiast drives it.
Weapon-R Tuner 2 coilover conversion. This one is basically the same with Ground Control except it added the extra locking plate (with the same allen screw locking it in place) supposedly for added security.

Skunkworks and Arospeed. These two companies utilize true coilover type locking devices. Double plates interlocking each other. This is by far the best set up yet. But how bout the sleeve? Some thing must be done to secure the sleeve.

These disadvantages not only can create clunking noise, but it can also be very dangerous. Imagine this: you are taking corners very fast, relying on that big buck suspension to do it job, when the sleeve/locking plates shifted thus creating a sudden jolt in your suspension (like when your driving thru rough road surface) and therefore lifted your tire of the ground thus losing traction……….
So why is it so popular? Cause it cheap ($249-$399US) compare to true coilovers ($1,200US and up). It looks cool, it's adjustable, and again it makes your car look cool….

Drivers Beware
The proper way to adjust a threaded coil-over suspension involves using a set of scales. The whole idea of this type of suspension adjustability is to equal out the loads on tires (or bias them for circle track) for cornering ability. The fact that you can lower the car with them is just an added benefit but it is NOT their primary function. You should be aware that you can hurt the performance of your car if you don't adjust them at least reasonably close. At best, the car may not corner as well as it used to. At worst, you may change the handling to the point of being dangerous. This sounds like an exageration but with a threaded setup you could load the front right and the left rear tires and create a car that turns left really well, but won't turn right worth a damn. Even, possibly, spinning out. All this with the car sitting perfectly level. You have the suspension, now take the time to set it up right. Find a tyre shop with some corner scales and work with them to adjust tire loading and ride height. The object is to get the cross weights (diagonal weights) even. It's not as important to get the other weights even. It's the cross weights that will sneak up on you."
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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 11:15 PM
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IM PLANNING TO GET THE EIBACH 1.2 PROKIT AND TOKICO BLUES FOR MY 97 ACCORD AND WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE HERE CAN GET ME A GOOD PRICE FOR INSTALLATIONS. 626 AREA PLZ!
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 02:20 AM
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turn off the caps key lock! thank you
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 02:35 AM
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Default Re: Dropping Car! What shall I do (yellowdcn)

yellowdcn,

noticed you live in Alhambra, my friends shop i go to is in Alhambra, right near to Costco, just msged them on AIM and he gave me prices that he can give you for everything and installation:

97 Honda Accord

SPRINGS
Eibach Pro-Kit [lowers 1.2" all around] - $225.98
Eiback Sportline [lowers 1.7" all around] - $237.30

SHOCKS
KYB GR-2 Shocks [non-adjustable] - $290.72
KYB AGX Shocks [adjustable] - $544.68
Tokico HP Shocks [non-adjustable] - $267.42
Tokico Illumina [adjustable] - $396.00

installation is around $80-$100 depending on how long it takes if there are problems with your car because they usually go by hourly rate for labor, but they said a 97 accord should be around $80 if nothing is rusted

eibach are one of the most comfortable and best shocks to get if you dont want to slam your car, it is always recommended to get new shocks if your going to lower your car, your even sup to on stock cars after a certain amount of miles, its in every service manul or even Honda dealership will tell you, KYB and Tokico are 2 popular brand names, KYB is a little cheaper, Tokico more known in fixing up cars, KYB and Tokico both made in Japan and manufacture OEM for stock cars so 2 names you can trust

but if your going to get springs and shocks, i would recommend getting coilovers, not only can you adjust height if you want your car lower or higher, but you get new shocks because REAL COILVERS unlike the ground control skunk2 or esp the generic brands that all these companies are doing themselves, i wouldnt trust over time, the sleeve coilvers have a chance or cracking and snapping, seen it before, not worth it unless you really have a budget and want coilovers, some of the more popular and recommended real coilvers where the coilover is embeded on the shock are:

TEIN
Basic [non adjustable shock, just height] - $649.95
SS [height and 16 way adj shock] - $866.60
SS-P [height and 16 way shock and comes will pillow ball mounts] - $1,412.56
alot more other brands, but thee are the ones people use for daily driving

Tanabe
Pro S-OC [height, helper spring, non adjustable shock] - $791.64
Pro S-OC Type II [height, i think upper mount, non adj shock] - $624.98
Pro S-S [height, with helper springs, 4 adj front and 8 rear adj shock] - $999.96
Pro S-S Type II [height, 4 adj front and 8 rear adj shock] - $833.30

Tokico
Illumina R [height, adj shock] - $758.57

there are alot more options for your car like APEXi, B&G, H&R, HKS, Progress, but my hand is getting tired from typing so much, give them a call if your interested:

SIX Autoworks
420 South Palm Ave.
Alhambra, CA 91803
626 642 0550

ask for Danny, he is the guy who gives me the lower pricing for me to give to friends or forums

i think that should jsut about cover everything
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