Powerslot Rotors with OEM pads?
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Powerslot Rotors with OEM pads?
I bought some brand new Powerslot rotors and was reading the directions and it said to use axxis or metal master pads with them...
Is it Required to used them? Will I be ok using OEM pad for a while until I can find/afford some new pads?
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Is it Required to used them? Will I be ok using OEM pad for a while until I can find/afford some new pads?
Thanks
-Nick
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Re: Powerslot Rotors with OEM pads? (DIYaccord)
It depends on what you're planning on using them for:
Strictly street use? Doesn't matter. If it's not very long before you get new pads, in a very short time, the residual buildup of material from the old pads will wear away, and shouldn't cause you any problems on the street at all. you can take some light steel wool or very light sandpaper and scuff up the surface when you put the new pads on.
Strictly track/autocross use? Pretty much the same as above, although you need to season the rotors (which you should not do with brand new pads), so use the stock/old pads for that, then install the new pads and bed them according to the directions.
Double duty (street/track)? As was suggested to me, a long time ago by a seasoned CRX driver in AZ, get a set of dedicated track rotors/racing pads. Swap to those when you get to the track, and swap back to the stocks/street setup when you leave. Tends to lengthen the life of both.
As far as using one specific brand with another, often manufacturers will team up with others who have coinciding products for the benefit of broader marketing. You may have never heard of axxis pads, but if powerslot says they're good, then you might be more inclined to buy them as a package. When I bought my 'slots, they were hyping Hawk pads. There shouldn't be any issue with what brand of pads you use, just realize that slotted rotors will cause any pad to wear a little quicker than standard rotors. Most guys on here will tell you that slotted rotors these days supposedly increase pedal feel, but do not contribute to decreased stopping distances or increased braking power. In my own experience, I did not notice any difference between stock blanks and the 'slots, just went through pads quicker, so I'll stick with stock blanks.
Strictly street use? Doesn't matter. If it's not very long before you get new pads, in a very short time, the residual buildup of material from the old pads will wear away, and shouldn't cause you any problems on the street at all. you can take some light steel wool or very light sandpaper and scuff up the surface when you put the new pads on.
Strictly track/autocross use? Pretty much the same as above, although you need to season the rotors (which you should not do with brand new pads), so use the stock/old pads for that, then install the new pads and bed them according to the directions.
Double duty (street/track)? As was suggested to me, a long time ago by a seasoned CRX driver in AZ, get a set of dedicated track rotors/racing pads. Swap to those when you get to the track, and swap back to the stocks/street setup when you leave. Tends to lengthen the life of both.
As far as using one specific brand with another, often manufacturers will team up with others who have coinciding products for the benefit of broader marketing. You may have never heard of axxis pads, but if powerslot says they're good, then you might be more inclined to buy them as a package. When I bought my 'slots, they were hyping Hawk pads. There shouldn't be any issue with what brand of pads you use, just realize that slotted rotors will cause any pad to wear a little quicker than standard rotors. Most guys on here will tell you that slotted rotors these days supposedly increase pedal feel, but do not contribute to decreased stopping distances or increased braking power. In my own experience, I did not notice any difference between stock blanks and the 'slots, just went through pads quicker, so I'll stick with stock blanks.
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Re: Powerslot Rotors with OEM pads? (DIYaccord)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DIYaccord »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I bought some brand new Powerslot rotors and was reading the directions and it said to use axxis or metal master pads with them...
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When I bought my Powerslots for my street CRX many years ago, I needed pads so I followed their suggestion as they mentioned Performacne Friction and Metal Masters back then. Got the PFs...hated it. I used to sell the Metal Masters in the late '80s and they were OK for that era but had a reputation for holding heat and don't know if thjey have been updated. Tried a few other options including the before I upgraded to the Integra brakes what I am now using. The Powerslots are now sitting waiting to be FP racecar fodder.
Use whatever good pad you want to and like that works for you driving situation. I am really, really liking the Hawk HP Plus that I have on the car now better than any street pad I have used (and that is a lot). You can use any pad you want with them.
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When I bought my Powerslots for my street CRX many years ago, I needed pads so I followed their suggestion as they mentioned Performacne Friction and Metal Masters back then. Got the PFs...hated it. I used to sell the Metal Masters in the late '80s and they were OK for that era but had a reputation for holding heat and don't know if thjey have been updated. Tried a few other options including the before I upgraded to the Integra brakes what I am now using. The Powerslots are now sitting waiting to be FP racecar fodder.
Use whatever good pad you want to and like that works for you driving situation. I am really, really liking the Hawk HP Plus that I have on the car now better than any street pad I have used (and that is a lot). You can use any pad you want with them.
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Re: Powerslot Rotors with OEM pads? (FormulaIntegra)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FormulaIntegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
...you need to season the rotor...
...bed them according to the directions.
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What is Seasoning a Rotor? and How do you bed a pad?
...you need to season the rotor...
...bed them according to the directions.
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What is Seasoning a Rotor? and How do you bed a pad?
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Re: Powerslot Rotors with OEM pads? (DIYaccord)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DIYaccord »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What is Seasoning a Rotor? and How do you bed a pad?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Heat cycling it , usually with light use, around 200 miles is good for the street.
Bedding the pad should be done according to directions of manufacturer, but Cobalt gives 4-6 light pedal effort 50-10 mph stops, followed by 10 minutes driving with little or no brake usage. After this cool down, you do 6-8 hard 50-10 mph stops, again never making a complete stop and cooling off for 15 minutes or more of driving, careful to use the brakes very little, if at all. After the final cool down, go park the car O/N w/o using parking brake.
Heat cycling it , usually with light use, around 200 miles is good for the street.
Bedding the pad should be done according to directions of manufacturer, but Cobalt gives 4-6 light pedal effort 50-10 mph stops, followed by 10 minutes driving with little or no brake usage. After this cool down, you do 6-8 hard 50-10 mph stops, again never making a complete stop and cooling off for 15 minutes or more of driving, careful to use the brakes very little, if at all. After the final cool down, go park the car O/N w/o using parking brake.
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Re: Powerslot Rotors with OEM pads? (Bill Hook)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by www.raceshopper.com »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
• The bedding in of your new POWER SLOT system is the most important part of the job. When re-assembly is completed, seat brake pads and establish pedal height by depressing the pedal several times before driving. Some vehicles may initially appear to have a very low pedal until pads become completely seated. Upon determining that installation was performed per specification, test drive the vehicle making several low speed stops to seat pads and assure the system is functioning safely.
• In order to assure maximum life and brake pad performance the system should be frequently heat cycled. Prolonged, excessive, heat during the bedding process can dramatically effect the performance of the POWER SLOT system. For best results the system should be cycled by firmly applying brake pressure, to produce heat in the system, for short period of time. Allow the system to cool and repeat the process. This will begin the tempering process. Avoid excessive or high speed braking until your new system has seated in. This will take approximately 200 to 500 miles. Not following the break-in procedure will severly effect how your new POWER SLOT system will function.
• Under heavy braking a slight whirring noise might be audible. This is a normal noise. A properly functioning brake system is essential to your safety. If you are unclear about any part of the installation, please consult a certified mechanic.
Your safety depends on it.
POWER SLOT ROTORS ARE FOR STREET AND RECREATIONAL OFF ROAD USE ONLY. ROTORS SUBJECTED TO ABUSIVE OR COMPETITION DRIVING VOID ANY WARRANTY.
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So I'm guessing this is what I have to do (from reading that^^^) and i'm they're gonna be doing dual purpose (street and soloII with two sets of pads).
1. Do several slow speed hard brake stops (for ???? long)
2. Heat Cycle? for 200-500 miles
Sorry, I'm just kinda confused...
Modified by DIYaccord at 10:16 AM 7/27/2004
• The bedding in of your new POWER SLOT system is the most important part of the job. When re-assembly is completed, seat brake pads and establish pedal height by depressing the pedal several times before driving. Some vehicles may initially appear to have a very low pedal until pads become completely seated. Upon determining that installation was performed per specification, test drive the vehicle making several low speed stops to seat pads and assure the system is functioning safely.
• In order to assure maximum life and brake pad performance the system should be frequently heat cycled. Prolonged, excessive, heat during the bedding process can dramatically effect the performance of the POWER SLOT system. For best results the system should be cycled by firmly applying brake pressure, to produce heat in the system, for short period of time. Allow the system to cool and repeat the process. This will begin the tempering process. Avoid excessive or high speed braking until your new system has seated in. This will take approximately 200 to 500 miles. Not following the break-in procedure will severly effect how your new POWER SLOT system will function.
• Under heavy braking a slight whirring noise might be audible. This is a normal noise. A properly functioning brake system is essential to your safety. If you are unclear about any part of the installation, please consult a certified mechanic.
Your safety depends on it.
POWER SLOT ROTORS ARE FOR STREET AND RECREATIONAL OFF ROAD USE ONLY. ROTORS SUBJECTED TO ABUSIVE OR COMPETITION DRIVING VOID ANY WARRANTY.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
So I'm guessing this is what I have to do (from reading that^^^) and i'm they're gonna be doing dual purpose (street and soloII with two sets of pads).
1. Do several slow speed hard brake stops (for ???? long)
2. Heat Cycle? for 200-500 miles
Sorry, I'm just kinda confused...
Modified by DIYaccord at 10:16 AM 7/27/2004
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