ABS system comes on even during summer
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ABS system comes on even during summer
My ABS comes on often on snow/icy roads, thanks.
But it is also coming on on dry pavement in the summer when the pavement is not uniform or in good shape. Obviously, this is quite frustrating to have the brake applied by the ABS while you want all the power!
Does anybody has the same problem and if so what can be done to get rid of it?
But it is also coming on on dry pavement in the summer when the pavement is not uniform or in good shape. Obviously, this is quite frustrating to have the brake applied by the ABS while you want all the power!
Does anybody has the same problem and if so what can be done to get rid of it?
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Re: ABS system comes on even during summer (fab)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fab »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My ABS comes on often on snow/icy roads, thanks.
But it is also coming on on dry pavement in the summer when the pavement is not uniform or in good shape. Obviously, this is quite frustrating to have the brake applied by the ABS while you want all the power!
Does anybody has the same problem and if so what can be done to get rid of it?
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Remove the abs.
But it is also coming on on dry pavement in the summer when the pavement is not uniform or in good shape. Obviously, this is quite frustrating to have the brake applied by the ABS while you want all the power!
Does anybody has the same problem and if so what can be done to get rid of it?
</TD></TR></TABLE>Remove the abs.
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Re: ABS system comes on even during summer (fab)
Dont remove it completely. Its good in winter. When u start up the car, jst leave the hand brake up one notch and drive a little with it. The ABS light should come on and it is
disengaged.
disengaged.
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Re: ABS system comes on even during summer (fab)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fab »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My ABS comes on often on snow/icy roads, thanks.
But it is also coming on on dry pavement in the summer when the pavement is not uniform or in good shape. Obviously, this is quite frustrating to have the brake applied by the ABS while you want all the power!
Does anybody has the same problem and if so what can be done to get rid of it?
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That isn't a problem; when the surface become uneven/bumpy, the friction between the surface and the tire changes dramatically. What's happening, is: the tire is losing contact with the road surface, so the clamping force of the brake system overpowers the friction between the surface of the road and the tire = ABS activation.
This also happens if you're applying the brakes, while cresting a hill at high speed; the car gets light, and the friction b/w the tire and surface changes (i.e., is reduced), the brakes overpower the tires and ABS comes on.
This is normal, and should NOT be a reason for you to disconnect ABS.
FACT: you will be quicker around a track with ABS .
FACT: you are safer on the street with ABS .
Point: Keep ABS on your car!
But it is also coming on on dry pavement in the summer when the pavement is not uniform or in good shape. Obviously, this is quite frustrating to have the brake applied by the ABS while you want all the power!
Does anybody has the same problem and if so what can be done to get rid of it?
</TD></TR></TABLE>That isn't a problem; when the surface become uneven/bumpy, the friction between the surface and the tire changes dramatically. What's happening, is: the tire is losing contact with the road surface, so the clamping force of the brake system overpowers the friction between the surface of the road and the tire = ABS activation.
This also happens if you're applying the brakes, while cresting a hill at high speed; the car gets light, and the friction b/w the tire and surface changes (i.e., is reduced), the brakes overpower the tires and ABS comes on.
This is normal, and should NOT be a reason for you to disconnect ABS.
FACT: you will be quicker around a track with ABS .
FACT: you are safer on the street with ABS .
Point: Keep ABS on your car!
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Re: ABS system comes on even during summer (bb6h22a)
I am a little confused here. I know the theoritical benefits of ABS (especially in winter). This is the first time I have ABS system on my car and it has never caused me much problem not to have it. The roads here are very very bumpy such that it is activated very often. Is it possible that it is too much sensitive on the lude or MY lude?
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Re: ABS system comes on even during summer (fab)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fab »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am a little confused here. I know the theoritical benefits of ABS (especially in winter). This is the first time I have ABS system on my car and it has never caused me much problem not to have it. The roads here are very very bumpy such that it is activated very often. Is it possible that it is too much sensitive on the lude or MY lude?
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well the roads in quebec aren't that great in the first place
actually, technically ABS is LEAST efficient and helpful in winter... that is because the point of ABS is to allow you to maintain steering control of the car under braking, it is NOT to reduce braking distance - that is just a common consequence of having ABS.
in winter, your wheels locking causes snow to build up in front of the wheels, helping you stop. in contrast, with ABS, the wheels just slide on the snow, never make traction (to slow the car) on the pavement, so in winter is actually one of the few times ABS isn't as helpful. at least on an unploughed or icy road.
like someone else said, if your suspension is modified and set to be too stiff, it would accentuate more greatly the varying loads on tires as the car goes over bumps, such that the ABS may kick in when it would not normally.
</TD></TR></TABLE>well the roads in quebec aren't that great in the first place
actually, technically ABS is LEAST efficient and helpful in winter... that is because the point of ABS is to allow you to maintain steering control of the car under braking, it is NOT to reduce braking distance - that is just a common consequence of having ABS.
in winter, your wheels locking causes snow to build up in front of the wheels, helping you stop. in contrast, with ABS, the wheels just slide on the snow, never make traction (to slow the car) on the pavement, so in winter is actually one of the few times ABS isn't as helpful. at least on an unploughed or icy road.
like someone else said, if your suspension is modified and set to be too stiff, it would accentuate more greatly the varying loads on tires as the car goes over bumps, such that the ABS may kick in when it would not normally.
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Re: ABS system comes on even during summer (kablamo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kablamo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well the roads in quebec aren't that great in the first place
actually, technically ABS is LEAST efficient and helpful in winter... that is because the point of ABS is to allow you to maintain steering control of the car under braking, it is NOT to reduce braking distance - that is just a common consequence of having ABS.
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which is of great importance. It's better for you to maybe slide a little farther forward in the winter... just learn to stop earlier and don't slam the brakes.. no biggy.
Now if you're going around a turn and your tires lock up and you end up sliding over the edge of a hill or something all because you tires are locked up.. now that's pretty shitty. I'd rather have the ABS
actually, technically ABS is LEAST efficient and helpful in winter... that is because the point of ABS is to allow you to maintain steering control of the car under braking, it is NOT to reduce braking distance - that is just a common consequence of having ABS.
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which is of great importance. It's better for you to maybe slide a little farther forward in the winter... just learn to stop earlier and don't slam the brakes.. no biggy.
Now if you're going around a turn and your tires lock up and you end up sliding over the edge of a hill or something all because you tires are locked up.. now that's pretty shitty. I'd rather have the ABS
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My suspension is original from the stock car (no mod). I thought that lude owners were tuning their suspension to be even "stiffer". Am I missing something here?
The roads pavement in Quebec really suck.
I still believe that ABS is more safe during winter (except if you are a very good "winter" driver and you outperform the ABS with your driving skill). Even then, someone may not notice icy road conditions sometimes but the ABS will do its job!
For summer, I am still not convinced that ABS is a good thing...
Modified by fab at 5:05 PM 7/27/2004
The roads pavement in Quebec really suck.
I still believe that ABS is more safe during winter (except if you are a very good "winter" driver and you outperform the ABS with your driving skill). Even then, someone may not notice icy road conditions sometimes but the ABS will do its job!
For summer, I am still not convinced that ABS is a good thing...
Modified by fab at 5:05 PM 7/27/2004
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For summer, I am still not convinced that ABS is a good thing...
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I'm not trying to be rude, but you're wrong. ABS will stop quicker , everytime. It may be the way you're applying the brake pedal; this topic (ABS) has been covered (in depth) - do a search, and peruse the threads (mostly inthe road race forum).
For summer, I am still not convinced that ABS is a good thing...
Modified by fab at 5:05 PM 7/27/2004</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm not trying to be rude, but you're wrong. ABS will stop quicker , everytime. It may be the way you're applying the brake pedal; this topic (ABS) has been covered (in depth) - do a search, and peruse the threads (mostly inthe road race forum).
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