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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 08:08 PM
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i know someone that works at an audio store , so i can get really cheap prices. im trying to stay around 200-250 before the discount. im just taking the prices from crutchfield. i am running 2 6.5" pioneer TS-A1670R with a Pioneer GM-X322 amp. feel free to make any other suggestions. i mostly just picked the features and the looks i wanted. i like the more plain look.

1) Pioneer DEH-P4600MP - $179.99
2) JVC Arsenal KD-AR400 - $179.99
3) JVC Arsenal KD-AR300 - $159.99
4) Kenwood KDC-MP425 - $189.99
5) Clarion ProAudio DXZ545MP $199.99
6) JVC Arsenal KD-AR3000 - $269.99
7) JVC Arsenal KD-AR800 - $249.99
8) Alpine CDA-9826 - $229.99


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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 06:51 AM
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go on ebay, you will find brand new stuff for a lot cheaper

my pioneer deh-p86000mp headunit was $513 at best buy, but only $335 on ebay
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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 06:53 AM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...43947

$160 shipped

from that list i'd go with the pioneer or alpine
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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 07:13 AM
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im getting a discount from my friends audio store, i know crutchfields prices are expensive, but i was just looking on there cuz they have detailed pictures and descriptions.

i read the pioneer headunits scan through mp3's slow and take a while to read them.
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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 07:31 AM
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alpine or pioneer should be fine.. other day my friend got his first alpine... basicly he nut in his pants telling me how clear the sound was and showed off how he could change the colors.. now he is getting a complete alpine setup with a 5 channel amp and either R or X sub... try alpine out.. he was also a previous pioneer guy with the eq monitor stuff. tell me how it goes
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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 07:44 AM
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what alpine would u recommend at around 200-250? i read some reviews about how the eq interface sucks on the 9827 .
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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 08:18 AM
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me personally if i would get the 9833,, on ebay almost 300 or so.. ive learned do it once do it right.. get it cheap get it again.. the 512 colors its tempting
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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 08:22 AM
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will i need such an expensive head unit for 2 6.5" and an amp? sorry i dont know much about audio. i do know that i will NOT be adding any subs.
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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 08:27 AM
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IMO if your not going to add subs or more speakers a cheaper unit will be fine.. with only 2 speakers im not too sure you will have to touch the eq settings that much to worry bout it.
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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 09:46 AM
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i most likely will not be adding more speakers. do i even need an expensive hu? i would like a good one , but not overkill. also , the reason i was looking at the alpine 9827 was because of the 4v preouts. what is the diff in the 4v preouts and would i notice it?

what hu would you recommend based on my setup.

thanks for the quick responses,
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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 10:37 AM
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For your use i think the 9827 or even a 9830 for about 10 bucks more(going by ebay prices) both those units are pretty much simaliar.. except.. 9830 plays wma and the faces swings to pop cds in instead of having a cd slot (9827) either way i think you will be set whatever unit u pick
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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 11:10 AM
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The Pioneer IMO is much easier to navigate. It will take longer to access an MP3 vs. a regular CD, but its only when you first put it in. Going through the tracks will be the same speed. I used to be diehard Alpine, but I'm not impressed with they're new decks.... Stay away from JVC....look nice, but basically just a turd in disguise....
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thanks alot guys. im thinking either the Pioneer DEH-P4600MP or alpine cda-9827 . the only thing making me consider the alpine is the 4v preouts . is that a good reason to choose the alpine. would i notice a difference?
also the cda-9827 does play wma files.

thanks in advance,
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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 04:10 PM
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i can't stnad alpines no matter how easy they are to use..they are so butt ugly..i got the pioneer deh-p860mp...its got 6v preout and its 330 on ebay
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no theyre not slow

i have over 170 files on my disk and it reads them fine <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drewthomas14 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im getting a discount from my friends audio store, i know crutchfields prices are expensive, but i was just looking on there cuz they have detailed pictures and descriptions.

i read the pioneer headunits scan through mp3's slow and take a while to read them.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 04:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drewthomas14 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks alot guys. im thinking either the Pioneer DEH-P4600MP or alpine cda-9827 . the only thing making me consider the alpine is the 4v preouts . is that a good reason to choose the alpine. would i notice a difference?
also the cda-9827 does play wma files.

thanks in advance,
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4 volt preouts will make a difference if you are using amps. Basically, the higher the output voltage on the preouts, the less you have to turn your amps up. Its usually a cleaner signal.
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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 05:44 PM
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im just using a small amp 35x2 rms , which is what my speakers are rated at.
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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 07:11 PM
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another thing i cant figure out about the pioneers is that there is a 460mp and a 4600mp , it's like that for a few other models too. what the difference?
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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 07:21 PM
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The 4 volt preout probably won't make a huge difference in your case. The 460mp is actually a Pioneer Premier unit and 4600mp is the regular Pioneer cd player. I'm not sure of the exact differences....The premier is usually a bit better.
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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 07:38 PM
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gotcha. i coulda swore the 4600mp was premier. i'm pretty sure it's just the warranty. it's the same with my speakers. im probably getting the pioneer 4600mp or 460mp because i read that u cant see the text on the cda-9827 in the daylight.

thanks for all your help guys.
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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 07:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drewthomas14 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">gotcha. i coulda swore the 4600mp was premier. i'm pretty sure it's just the warranty. it's the same with my speakers. im probably getting the pioneer 4600mp or 460mp because i read that u cant see the text on the cda-9827 in the daylight.

thanks for all your help guys. </TD></TR></TABLE>
460MP = Premier

Premier = 2 year warranty instead of one year

The CDA-9827 works flawlessly, it's fine in the daytime. It's a decent HU for the price.
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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 07:45 PM
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premiers usually have a higher preout voltage..2v for regular vs 4v or 6v for premier
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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 08:37 PM
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damn so now it's between the cda-9827 and the premier 460mp. is the alpine difficult to navigate. im mostly looking for the best bang for the buck here.

also i read teh pioneer cant read itunes aac files(mpeg 4) . does anyone know if the alpine would?
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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 10:09 PM
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dunno about reading mpeg4 files but the 9827 is pretty easy to navigate. I pretty much figured it all out within 5 minutes "literally".
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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 10:26 PM
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awesome , i think imma go with the alpine. thanks for all the help guys.
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