h and r race springs why does my car sit like this

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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 01:42 PM
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The car sits level, but there is more wheel gap in the front than in the rear. I havent driven the car at all yet, do they need to settle, or do i have to cut them a bit Or is it just me being pickey.
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 01:43 PM
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Are they in right??

Are they sitting in the right spot?
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 01:45 PM
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can u take a pix of the car on a flat surface?
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 01:53 PM
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are they new or old...

if they are old its possible that you are sagging..
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 01:57 PM
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u need to break them in yet imo
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 01:59 PM
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The front springs are a little higher so the front of your car has more travel during hard cornering.

Im pretty sure your front springs are progressive (spring rate increases as more force is applied) and your rear springs are linear (one constant spring rate). Usually this means that the front springs will ride a little higher so that there is a slight rate of travel due to the weight carried by the front of your car (engine).

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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 01:59 PM
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let us know after a few days of driving, make sure the springs sat right in the upper and lower hat pieces
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 02:02 PM
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See i thought so too about the breaking in. they are in right i made sure of it. I havent driven the car at all yet, due to waiting for my new tranny. But in these pics it doesnt look as bad. So maybe im just perenoid. I was just wondering if anybody else has had this problem. I figured there was function behind it, so yah. I guess i was just worried about it. But now that i look at it, it doesnt look that bad so....

Yah everything is brand new, no used parts.
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 02:10 PM
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Looks good to me
remember being slammed doesn't mean having a performance suspension
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 02:14 PM
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yea its the shock and since it hasnt settled in yet.... dude you are just getting too paranoid.. but understandable.. good luck

o btw sweet ride
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 02:31 PM
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my car looks the same, my front passenger wheel has more of a gap, the back passenger is lower than the rest, and the two drivers sides look about even. I'm sure I installed them right.

I'm thinking it's the stock shocks that I used.
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 06:41 PM
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looks good it sits fine when some miles on them the car will come down alil bit. if they were wrong say the back spring in the front the car would have a crazy ganger lean to the front and the *** end would be sky high
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 06:46 PM
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Thanks guys. I really need to get this damn thing to move now.
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 07:07 PM
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I think something might be wrong, cause I have the H&R Sport which is supposed to sit a little higher than the race springs and my car is lower than yours.
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 07:09 PM
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That would definetely **** me off soooo much

Id be taking the torch to them for the extra inch lol
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 07:58 PM
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Your springs are also way softer than mine. I think im convinced they will settle.
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 09:00 PM
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Even if every springs settles 1", the rear will still be lower than the front
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 10:19 PM
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you shouldnt expect springs to "settle". cheap springs do, but i wouldnt ever buy springs and think its a good thing to wait for them to "settle".

the problem is just that you need to reset your bushings. as written specifically in the helms manual, youre supposed to loosen all the control arm bolts and then torque em to spec after youve put weight on the car. its not quite easy to do with the wheels on, so when the car is on 4 jack stands, then just jack up one corner of the suspension arm with the wheel off until it just lifts off the jack stand and then tighten it all down. this is the proper procedure for working on your suspension. failure to do so will ruin your bushings (unless theyre bad already from 15 years of use, which should be expected). oem bushings are designed to have the rubber twist with the rotation, its like its own rotational spring. that spring needs to be reset, or its constantly being stretched, and because of age, each of the bushings have a different effective "spring rate" and will resist the amount of rotation differently. the probably reason ppl believe their ride height to "settle" after some time of use is because they end up tearing the bushings so that they provide no torsional resistance and are back to zero, but are then completely ruined.

so do this, but also check to see if you installed everything the same, in terms of making sure the springs are seated in the rubber gasket of the top hat and on the bottom perch of the shock and what not.

i do not believe any off the shelf spring kit would purposely mismatch ride heights for the purpose of "handling". the more direct method is to change the actual spring rate to affect handling....
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 10:39 PM
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My car when I had H&R race springs on oem shocks. Front looks higher but keep in mind the front tires were bald to the bone.






Modified by t0eKnEe at 2:53 AM 7/25/2004
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 10:42 PM
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no way in hell are those race springs. i have the sports and my car has about a finger gap.

my friend has h & R race on his DA and when we put them in they was no gap at all. (brand new springs) since then they have sagged a tad
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 10:42 PM
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eibachs seem to do that as well and those are very good springs, over the years i have always just ended up cutting a coil or two in the front to even it up. I honestly dont think that settling will even that out.
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 10:46 PM
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Tyson, good wirte-up

my problem lies in my rear coilovers. i can crush the rear suspension and my car sits higher in the back (a 2-3 inch wheel gap) while my front has almost no wheel gap. i hear something about flipping a bushing over? i dunno im not really sure what to do.
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 10:51 PM
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what you need to do is take the rear shock out and with a BFH knock the cup that holds the spring off and then turn it over and put it back on.
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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 08:34 PM
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Is the overall ride height even? That's how the springs are supposed to be right? With even ride height all around? The wheel gap between the fender and the wheel isn't a good measure for actual ride height since the front fender area is usually larger due to the fact that the wheel needs space to turn left/right etc. without hitting the fender during suspension travel. It looks like your ride height is even, but I can't really tell. you'll have to measure it from the frame
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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 08:46 PM
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Yah the car all the way around when you look at the body is even. I guess im still stuck in my old show car mode ways with my coilovers. Im dumb and need to just realize that function is key here.
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