WELL MY FRIEND WITH AN ITR FRIED THE MOTOR WILE HAVING FUN WITH TURBO AND THE DEAKERSHIP REFUSES TO FIX IT UNDER WARRANTY. TO DEALERSHIP (AN ECLIPSE CAN TAKE 30 PSI STOCK WHATS WRONG WITH 13 PSI ON AN ITR) DELERSHIPS GOT EXCUSES WE GOT THE WARRANTY POWER . ME AND MY CREWS ARE GUESSING THAT THE MOTOR FRIED DUE TO SOME FACTORY ASSEMBLE ERROR .MY FRIEND IS TRYING TO SUE THEM FOR THE DAMAGE / COST OF NEW ENGINE AND COST OF TIME WASTED . SO PEOPLE HELP MY CREW OUT ANY ADVICE WOULD BE APPRECIATED .

THE EXPERIENCE ON THE ENGINE FRIEING IS HERE:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=936346

I'LL POST PICS OF DAMAGE AS SOON AS I FIGURE OUT HOW TO.




Modified by Vin_Cena at 11:54 AM 7/24/2004

 

good luck.....i bet my life savings that you will not get a dime out of honda.

instead of wasting money on an attorney, tell him to start saving for a new short block.

I would also be willing to bet that his motor "frieing" has nothing to do w/ the dealership or manufacturer, but it the person installing the turbo/driving the car.

my $.02

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bmheck5184 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">good luck.....i bet my life savings that you will not get a dime out of honda.

instead of wasting money on an attorney, tell him to start saving for a new short block.

I would also be willing to bet that his motor "frieing" has nothing to do w/ the dealership or manufacturer, but it the person installing the turbo/driving the car.

my $.02

</TD></TR></TABLE>

i agree. Any install done right will work. for the install you guys did.

PS: Caps lock

 

Hrm... lemme get this right.

You turbocharged a motor that is designed to create optimum power in NA form....
....

...@13 psi?

and it's hondas fault??

 

Warranty on and engine only applies to unmodified engines. Generally speaking, once you replace or add any system to the vehicle that changes it's factory characteristics you VOID the warranty. There are very few exceptions and depending on the dealership, you have your goodwill warranties.

In this specific case, you just blantantly voided your warranty. Acura offers this engine in a factory NA state. You just made it forced induction.

Now let's step back and take a breath here. Acura did not in any way imply or state warranty on a product they did not offer from the factory. Technically, once you change something, they have every right to void it. I don't care if it's a suspension component and you're having problems with the factory intake. By the book, it's not OEM, so the warranty is void. That's where the specific dealerships come into play. They determine the lienancy of this policy. And in some cases you may have a dealership willing to work with you.

*personal opinion* Acura does not sponsor your car. If you want sponsorship, ask. I swear, some people should just do us a favor and remove themselves from the gene pool. May I suggest a larger caliber weapon pointed at the temple. Or push yourself down the steps?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by len &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Warranty on and engine only applies to unmodified engines. Generally speaking, once you replace or add any system to the vehicle that changes it's factory characteristics you VOID the warranty. There are very few exceptions and depending on the dealership, you have your goodwill warranties.

In this specific case, you just blantantly voided your warranty. Acura offers this engine in a factory NA state. You just made it forced induction.

Now let's step back and take a breath here. Acura did not in any way imply or state warranty on a product they did not offer from the factory. Technically, once you change something, they have every right to void it. I don't care if it's a suspension component and you're having problems with the factory intake. By the book, it's not OEM, so the warranty is void. That's where the specific dealerships come into play. They determine the lienancy of this policy. And in some cases you may have a dealership willing to work with you.

*personal opinion* Acura does not sponsor your car. If you want sponsorship, ask. I swear, some people should just do us a favor and remove themselves from the gene pool. May I suggest a larger caliber weapon pointed at the temple. Or push yourself down the steps? </TD></TR></TABLE>

cliffnotes: you loose dumb ****

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Vin_Cena &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">WELL MY FRIEND WITH AN ITR FRIED THE MOTOR WILE HAVING FUN WITH TURBO AND THE DEAKERSHIP REFUSES TO FIX IT UNDER WARRANTY. TO DEALERSHIP (AN ECLIPSE CAN TAKE 30 PSI STOCK WHATS WRONG WITH 13 PSI ON AN ITR) DELERSHIPS GOT EXCUSES WE GOT THE WARRANTY POWER . ME AND MY CREWS ARE GUESSING THAT THE MOTOR FRIED DUE TO SOME FACTORY ASSEMBLE ERROR .MY FRIEND IS TRYING TO SUE THEM FOR THE DAMAGE / COST OF NEW ENGINE AND COST OF TIME WASTED . SO PEOPLE HELP MY CREW OUT ANY ADVICE WOULD BE APPRECIATED .

THE EXPERIENCE ON THE ENGINE FRIEING IS HERE:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=936346

I'LL POST PICS OF DAMAGE AS SOON AS I FIGURE OUT HOW TO.


Modified by Vin_Cena at 11:54 AM 7/24/2004</TD></TR></TABLE>

Are you joking? Cause you can't be serious.

 

Are you serious? Why would Honda give you a dime because of you're stupidity, let alone Type-r's weren't meant to be boosted.

 

Troll and or ignorant.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by len &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't care if it's a suspension component and you're having problems with the factory intake. By the book, it's not OEM, so the warranty is void. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You would, as well as every other dealership lose out on this arguement, when going to court.

this is like saying, you have a aftermarket shift ****. we're voiding your warranty on the ecu being fried.

much like anyone could also take this to the public media, and that would certainly change things for the general manager/owner, the book is the book, but rarely does anyone go 100% by the book

now on related items where causation is probable, youre SOL

 

LOL!! I should have gone to Acura when I blew my stock motor on boost


: with very much sarcasm:

 

I can see this is going nowhere fast.

 

Sounds like you guys didnt know what you guys were doing at 13psi did you? another car can handle 30psi is different, it's built for it and ITR is not. Suprise Acura didn't chase you out of the dealership with a bat. as long as the aftermarket part is not the cause of the defect then acura will surely replace it for you, but in this case (as above said) take your money and buy a new shortblock.

 

Actually the warranty won't necesarily be voided by aftermarket parts (of course, with the turbo, he's screwed). There's a law about this, but I can't remember the name. For instance, say you lowered your car, and some drivetrain component craps out on you. You can still claim that under warranty since the aftermarket parts had nothing to do with that system. They have to prove it adversely affected it in order to void the warranty.

 

WHAT AN ******* DUMBASS. I JUST CANT STOP LAUGHING

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sPaRk’iT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well me and my fellow crew (Team-ButterflyR) got nothing to do one day and decided to put my t3 turbo on one of my friends newly bought integra type r. Well we hooked everything up and made sure everything was good to go then we started her up (sounds angry .). We put the boost at 13 psi and took it for a ride and wow what a ride . pulls like a farrarai . 3 hours later black smoke came out of my boys itr then the engine died out as we were halfway home. </TD></TR></TABLE>

haha. so basically it sounds like you slapped on a turbo with some piping. did no tuning what so ever. dogged the **** out of the car. then broke it 3 hours later. boy, you have to be the dumbest ******* person ever. you dont even deserve a car i hope acura takes you through hoops and your friend ends up shelling out thousands only to lose a case. your the reason why dealerships and manufacturers are so crazy about mods and warranties. x eleventy billion


edit: this must be a joke. look at all of your threads! you really should leave your tools alone from now on.


DEALERSHIP PROBLEM NEED HELP
Crx with B16 experience gone wrong
CAR WON'T START AFTER 100 SHOT OF NOS?? HELP ME OUT??
boost experience i've now learned that B18c5=bad for boost

 

Can't believe there is such dumbass people will actual approach the dealer after
they messed up big time, especially turbo something that is not meant to be
and claim warranty! Service manager must had laugh all the way back to American
Honda with this story!
This has to be a joke from one of you guys right?? Haha!


Modified by machgo5go at 12:06 AM 7/25/2004

 

UPDATE:After a long argueing fight-Dealership still refuses to fix my Boys ITR. To Dealership(Doesn't Warranty power mean anything)(advice to them: make customer happy not mad). The dealership has three choices 1-pay for damage/new engine 2-take the blown itr and give him another one 3- i'll See you in court. acura has some Poor Dealership Customer service.


People we need advice-if you don't have any don't post at all ok thanks.


Modified by Vin_Cena at 11:31 PM 7/24/2004

 

You gotta be kidding me.

The damage was caused by human error/stupidity. You can't expect Honda to pay for your mistakes, or else they'd be paying for every tuner who blows their engine when they're tinkering around with their car. That's a risk anybody who adds forced induction to an NA car takes. Do you guys even know what the hell you're doing or talking about? An Eclipse's motor is built to be turbocharged so has stronger internals. An ITR has a NA high compression engine, no one who knows what they're doing would think of running 13 psi of boost without some sort of tuning done. And you know what - even if they were to properly tune it, and something were to happen, Honda probably wouldn't cover it anyway since you've changed the motor from it's original design.

For the amount of time and money it would cost to get a lawyer (and probably lose), might as well put it towards a new motor.