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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 09:26 PM
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I know this has been covered quite a bit (I've done the search), but wondering what 3 gauges I should get for my triple pillar pod? Obviously the cars turbo'd since this is in the FI forum. I definitely want boost and oil pressure, not sure on the third one, but below is what I was thinking of.

For third gauge:
EGT(Exhaust Gas Temp)/Pyrometer
OR
Fuel Pressure
OR
Oil Temp
OR
Water Temp

Lastly what gauges should I use mechanical and which should I use electrical. I would prefer electrical for oil pressure because I don't want oil line running to interior of car. Thanks in advance
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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 09:31 PM
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tells us your setup that would help
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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 09:57 PM
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Well, my engine is the stock B18C1 with stock internals (for now). DRAG t3/t4 turbo running 7 psi of boost on a POS Deltagate wastegate (soon to be Tial), Vortec FMU, HKS BOV, etc.. MSD 6AL ignition, NGK 7 series plugs, NGK wires, 3" custom bent exhaust w/ Apexi N1 turbo muffler. That's it for now, more money to save suring fall winter, and engine work in spring.
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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 10:01 PM
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id say oil temp be a good one maybe not the best but you dont what your oil hot so,really no point for exhaust temp or fuel pressure(its not like its lsvtec)water temp i dont see it need to be on your 3 gauge pillar maybe in dash
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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 11:06 PM
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air/fuel silly...get the wideband one from AEM...bling and accuracy
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 07:48 AM
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well, for my next turbo setup, im going to have boost, oil temp and egt. a/f isnt very accurate(and i have a wideband). the only other gauge id consider is oil pressure
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 09:05 AM
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haha i didnt even thing abut air/fuel
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 09:19 AM
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put a mechanical Fuel pressure under the hood. Get a EGT and boost, and ifg u can afford it, a WB 02
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 05:50 PM
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i though egt and A/F were only handy for the tuners, if you dont tune it yourself or even know what they do, go for a temp guage, at least you can see how hot/cold your engine is running and you know what each guage does...
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 05:57 PM
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Wideband air fuel hands down. you can get a super accurate PLX for $300. If you can't read a wideband you also will have problems with street signs and probably the speedometer.
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 07:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bailhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wideband air fuel hands down. you can get a super accurate PLX for $300. If you can't read a wideband you also will have problems with street signs and probably the speedometer. </TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL.

You definately need a boost/vacuum gauge. You may even want to use a separate boost gauge and a separate vacuum gauge for more precise readings.

A EGT and a WBO2 are great if you are tuning-as-you-go, but if your car is professionally tuned I don't see the need.

Then I would get water temp if you don't have a stock water temp gauge. Next in line would be an IAT gauge, because your tuner cannot always accurately gauge how the IAT will be affected by speed, ambiant temperature, etc.
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 07:20 PM
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Sorry but im still learning the turbo stuff. Whats a IAT gauge? Im not trying to steal the thread either. Thanks
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 07:24 PM
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Boost
Wideband AFR
Oil Pressure

EGT
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 08:04 PM
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Boost
EGT
Oil Pressure
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 08:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beepy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

LOL.

You definately need a boost/vacuum gauge. You may even want to use a separate boost gauge and a separate vacuum gauge for more precise readings.

A EGT and a WBO2 are great if you are tuning-as-you-go, but if your car is professionally tuned I don't see the need.

Then I would get water temp if you don't have a stock water temp gauge. Next in line would be an IAT gauge, because your tuner cannot always accurately gauge how the IAT will be affected by speed, ambiant temperature, etc.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well ya i was assuming the first 2 were oil press and boost. I still say WB is the best 3rd one to have. Wounden't you want to know the instant you are running lean because the fuel line you tied on with string came off or the condoms in your gas tank clogged up the pick up maybe....

I'de rather see that thing flash LEAN or 16:1 than see my water temp go up and wonder why....
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 08:30 PM
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EGT.

Wideband display it going to be different, most are rectangular shaed and aren't going to fit in your triple pillar.
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 09:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B00ST2nR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Boost
EGT
Oil Pressure</TD></TR></TABLE>

i totally agree with these three.
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 10:02 PM
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Boost/vacuum
Oil Pressure
EGT

and if you can afford it...get the AEM W/B with display which will fit in your pillar housing.
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 10:28 PM
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Boost
Wideband AFR
EGT
Mechanical Oil preussre

IMO these are the most important for a turbo car.
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 10:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MachAF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">EGT.

Wideband display it going to be different, most are rectangular shaed and aren't going to fit in your triple pillar.</TD></TR></TABLE>

function over fashion. put a pic of your girl in the other hole.
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 11:35 PM
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Default Re: what 3 gauges should I get? (CrazyModGSR)

Boost: obvious reasons..
Oil Pressure: incase of sudden drops/leaks..
EGT: to tell if your too lean or rich..
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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 12:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SpdFrk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Boost
Wideband AFR
EGT
Mechanical Oil preussre

IMO these are the most important for a turbo car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

why a mechanical oil pressure and not electrical? i don't tune myself, probably won't being doing any adjusting until spring (maybe some engine work over winter), so not sure if I will want WB AFR. also, what exactly would I be looking for on the EGT gauge?
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 06:57 AM
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i think i will just get boost (mechanical or electric?) and oil pressure. after a lot of searches, i don't think i would really benefit from either the afr or egt at this point. i don't want to spend more than $175-$200 on one gauge, and I don't tune myself, so the egt gauge readings wouldn't mean much to me. also, doesn't seem i can find a good wideband afr for fairly cheap and what i want. is a regular (say autometer) afr better than nothing, or am i better of w/out it? eventually i may be getting a carputer which will let me monitor a lot more engine conditions.
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 08:13 AM
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if your trying to decide between air/fuel and egt id say go with egt. your tuner should tune the air/fuel so the egt pretty much just monitors that. when it gets too hot you know theres somthing wrong.(catch the problem before its a real problem)
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 08:19 AM
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i don't really have a tuner. not good, lol. i will be putting the car away in a couple months (oct) for the winter though, so i can figure stuff out then
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