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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 10:32 AM
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ok, i just got my 26mm front and rear sway bars for my ITR

my question is this...

can i just slap these bad boyz on or do i need anything else or any tips before i do it?

can i use stock mounts/bushings and so on, im a noob to this type of thing

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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 10:36 AM
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Me personally, I'd get beaks mounts for those cause I've seen swaybears eat a chunk out of the chassis of hatchies and Preludes. 26mm rear sway? Whoa isn't that like overkill oversteer country?
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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 10:44 AM
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Your sways should come w/bushings, if not call King Motorsports. The stock bushing retainers will work fine. Enjoy!

mikehonda: who recomends not to put da 26mm in front but, rear only
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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 11:08 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mikehonda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">mikehonda: who recomends not to put da 26mm in front but, rear only </TD></TR></TABLE>

Depending on the setup, the Mugen front sway can greatly increase the steering response of the car. It could be a good thing.
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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 05:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Wai &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Depending on the setup, the Mugen front sway can greatly increase the steering response of the car. It could be a good thing. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, it could, but with the rear so easy to install and the front being a royal PITA to install, I'd just opt for the rear bar first (which I had on my car) and then decide if I needed the front.

get new bushings from King. the Mugen stuff is a hard rubber and of the proper diameter for the bar. use with the stock sway bar brackets.
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Old Jul 23, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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k thanks guys

any more comments, keep em commin
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 03:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by THEINTEGRATION &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Me personally, I'd get beaks mounts for those cause I've seen swaybears eat a chunk out of the chassis of hatchies and Preludes. 26mm rear sway? Whoa isn't that like overkill oversteer country?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The ITR subframe is reinforced from the factory. No problem running a 26mm rear bar. Ask Mugenmike - his 26mm rear bar has been on the car for over 100,000 miles.
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 04:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ausmith &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The ITR subframe is reinforced from the factory. No problem running a 26mm rear bar. Ask Mugenmike - his 26mm rear bar has been on the car for over 100,000 miles.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why aren't <u>you</u> at the Expo?
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 08:42 AM
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no need to reinforce it. and i woulnt run it in the front.
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 01:21 PM
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get some pics i wanna see how these look on ur ride
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 01:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by THEINTEGRATION &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Me personally, I'd get beaks mounts for those cause I've seen swaybears eat a chunk out of the chassis of hatchies and Preludes. 26mm rear sway? Whoa isn't that like overkill oversteer country?</TD></TR></TABLE>

ITR comes w/a 23 mm rear. It's not as huge a step as you'd think.
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 03:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

ITR comes w/a 23 mm rear. It's not as huge a step as you'd think.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i think usdm is 22mm and jdm 23mm but yea like george knighton says there no need for a mount kit on an itr but gs-r ls different story.
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 06:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Wai &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Depending on the setup, the Mugen front sway can greatly increase the steering response of the car. It could be a good thing. </TD></TR></TABLE>


Is there a need for upgrading the USDM stock sway bars to Mugen 26mm sway bars for street/track?
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 06:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bcrl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


Is there a need for upgrading the USDM stock sway bars to Mugen 26mm sway bars for street/track?</TD></TR></TABLE>

depends on your current setup as well as your driving style.
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 07:37 PM
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ill write a nice review

the sways, and my JRSC and a few other things go on WEDS

ill keep you guys updated, with pics
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 08:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by delinquent &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

depends on your current setup as well as your driving style.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Will the Mugen 26mm sway bars help a lot on the body roll of USDM stock suspension?
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 09:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bcrl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


Will the Mugen 26mm sway bars help a lot on the body roll of USDM stock suspension?</TD></TR></TABLE>

well, they are called "SWAY" bars....
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 10:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Azcheron &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


well, they are called "SWAY" bars....</TD></TR></TABLE>

or... anti-roll bars!
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 10:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Why aren't <u>you</u> at the Expo?</TD></TR></TABLE>

GK ... Probably for the SAME reason you aren't!!

BTW -- Kelly, thanks for that rear bar.
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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 05:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Azcheron &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


well, they are called "SWAY" bars....</TD></TR></TABLE>


That means "YES" for improve a lot for the body roll of stock suspension?
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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 06:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bcrl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
That means "YES" for improve a lot for the body roll of stock suspension?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The short answer is yes, but it might not be the right solution for you. And Mugen swaybars are certainly not a cheap first step to improving handling.

What are you going to be doing to the car, and what have you done to it so far?

If you're after spirited street driving, then maybe just get a set of Spoon Sport springs and new shocks. This will give you a more enthusiastic feel on the street without compromising the ride too awfully much.

This assumes you're not going to decide later to start tracking the car heavily, because you'll then get into the usual routine of buying a camber kit and sway bars.

What many of us have done is put on straight-ratio springs, perhaps the Ground Control system with custom rates, and new shocks, preferably adjustable. This is a pretty cheap way to get the ITR to handle well without spending a lot of money; however, this is a track-oriented solution and you will quickly compromise the ride of the ITR if you go much beyond 500# springs.

Some of us have been satisfied for an extended time with Ground Controls 400# Front and 500# Rear, together with a good set of shocks like Koni Yellow.
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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 07:20 AM
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in all honesty tho, the stock suspension is great, cant go wrong there

but like george said, some nice springs/shocks can make all the difference

i have a friend who has the koni yellows with the skunk2 sleeves and it handles quite well

another friend with the kyb agx "whatever they are called" shocks with some ground controls and that also isnt so bad

im using bilstein shocks with h&r springs, i like these because its only like a .75 inch drop and the car isnt too rough on streets, but handles real nice, i had to switch the front and rear springs to get rid of my understeer problem, but now its awesome
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