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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 02:14 PM
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This isnt a very important question but i cant seem to find an answer to it.
Does the Type R Vtec only have on kick like a h22 or b16? or is it like a GSR and kick in at 4500 and 5200 rpms? im getting one this winter and im just wondering thanks
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 02:19 PM
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Default Re: Type R Vtec question (Edgemingsr)

VTEC engages at 5700 rpms on the ITR.

VTEC engages at 4400 rpms on the GSR.
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 02:19 PM
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type R vtec kicks in at 5800 and fuel cut is 8600

it kicks in much stronger than the GSR vtec which is at 4400
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 02:25 PM
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the itr kicks in stock at 5800. As for the GSR, i dunno where those two got that 4400 from cause my girlfriends brother has one with header, exhaust and intake and his kicks in at 5700. And he had a GSR before this GSR that kicked in at the same rpm (5700). And as for the power change the itr kicks in just as hard core as the gsr does.
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 02:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by totsie7944 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the itr kicks in stock at 5800. As for the GSR, i dunno where those two got that 4400 from cause my girlfriends brother has one with header, exhaust and intake and his kicks in at 5700. And he had a GSR before this GSR that kicked in at the same rpm (5700). And as for the power change the itr kicks in just as hard core as the gsr does.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The 5700 RPM kick in the GSR is the IAB (intake air bypass) opening, not the VTEC. The VTEC is near 4400 RPM in the GSR depending on throttle position, etc.
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 02:34 PM
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omg hyP3-ArrRRRRrRR m4d 3Rd g33r Vtack k1ckkkkkkkzzzzzz!
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 02:38 PM
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GSR vTAK is in 4400 range, and the secondary butterflies in the intake manifold open up late 5000 around 5700 RPM range
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 03:14 PM
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Default Re: Type R Vtec question (v-attack)

Yes, my old GSR kicked in at 4400 (even at 1/2 throttle) and secondaries at 5700. Mmm secondaries sound great with intake and exhaust. My friend has a Prelude and his VTEC does not kick. It's more noise than anything, and even then not muc noise. My old Si was loud. For some reason, my Type-S has a small kick, maybe it's the sudden change in lobes during crossover.
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 03:23 PM
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i think the vtec "kick" is the same but might feel different b/c of the different manifold design
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Edgemingsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This isnt a very important question but i cant seem to find an answer to it.
Does the Type R Vtec only have on kick like a h22 or b16? or is it like a GSR and kick in at 4500 and 5200 rpms? im getting one this winter and im just wondering thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is a GSR IM and how it works:



This is a Type R IM and how it works:


The dual-port intake manifold was "simplified" to a single-port -- allowing the torque curve peak to be at an unusually high 7,500 rpm. Very unusual indeed, but compliments the horsepower curve peak at 8,000 rpm
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 04:24 PM
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I love when people say vtec KICKS IN...like its some unholy amount of power from the heavens...
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 04:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Swags04 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I love when people say vtec KICKS IN...like its some unholy amount of power from the heavens... </TD></TR></TABLE>

So you don't have a Type-R then.
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 05:28 PM
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ook cool i never knew that. I guess i will need to share that with him. thanx
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 05:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1GreyTeg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

So you don't have a Type-R then.</TD></TR></TABLE>


LMFAO are you serious?
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 05:38 PM
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Type R VTEC kick is the best, sh*ts on any other type of VTEC, period.
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 05:39 PM
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ok i have a question then. when i am in my girlfriends gsr, i hardly feel ne thing at 4400, then at 5700 when the air bypass opens it reallly gives alot more power and accerleration. so what i am asking is why do people buy vtec controllers and set the vtec ne where from 4500-6700, depending on the car of course and mods? i know this sounds dumb, i guess can someone just explain better how that works on the gsr. and as for the Type R, mine is tuned and set at 6700 with the hondata ecu. Does that sound normal with what i have done? look at my signature. i bought it tuned already like that. sorry if this sounds dumb....

edit: As for the manifolds, from the diagram i am assuming that basically what happens in the type r is that (what would be the change in the gsr air bypass opening) the type r is always getting that extra air flow and power becuase it always allows more air and doesn't have that butterfly?
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 06:47 PM
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vtec from what I understand only keeps the tourque curve going, it doesnt create a huge jump in hp. Although it does feel that way as you enjoy the melody of an B-18C5 at 8400 rpms. Oh and to Totsie7944, that vtech engagement point seems a little high. Think about when you shift from gear to gear where you tach lands. Having vtech come in that late means you aren't in it going into the next gear. That would also depend on your cars setup.

I've had a 96 GSR, a 97 Prelude, and now a 98 ITR. The vtech "kick" is most noticable in the aRR, followed by the GSR, and mostly just noise in the overweight Prelude.
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 06:58 PM
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yeah, vtec.... doesnt create hp at all. its all about the torque

*roll eyes*
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 07:21 PM
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Default Re: Type R Vtec question (B2FiNiTY)

Gs-R Vtec kicks in at 5700, 4400 is the butterfly valves inside the intake manifold
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 07:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Captain Commando &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">*roll eyes*</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats the whole point of it, donkey.

Torque curve is relatively flat across the board, so that HP can keep climibing past 8,000 rpm.
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 07:55 PM
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curious question.
My gsr has a victor x mani on it. Does that have primary and secondary butterflies, or just one set?
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 08:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BDBGoalie1982 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">curious question.
My gsr has a victor x mani on it. Does that have primary and secondary butterflies, or just one set?</TD></TR></TABLE>

one.

single runner.
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 08:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Swags04 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I love when people say vtec KICKS IN...like its some unholy amount of power from the heavens... </TD></TR></TABLE>

um... YEAH... duh.

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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 09:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by uncleben &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">um... YEAH... duh.

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LOL

VTEC!!!! Oh **** dat wuz FAST.

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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 09:28 PM
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My R is bone stock and the transition is ALOT more seemless than my B16 was. Its just not as pronounced. The mid-range is nice on the R though, I think thats what makes the transition so smooth. The B16 is gutless until 5700 then it comes to life so the crossover, especially w/ a CAI is LOUD!
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