Why is my cursor include the word MOO and a smiley face when I'm on HT.com? It isn't happening on any other site and it's annoying as hell.

K

 

Same here my friend.

I was waiting to see someone else posting about it so I knew I was not crazy!


It's really damn annoying.......

 

MOO

 

Ditto.

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=932749

and there are several more theads like that one.

 

MOO sucks!

 

no moo for me. maybe because i use MOZILLA!!! maybe time j00 f00s upgrade too?

http://mozilla.org

 

What did the cow say just before it got hit by the train?

"M-"

Andy - who's got a lot more JUST like that one.

 

No "Moo" cuz I'm Mac'n.

 

Sounds like what I expected - damn kiddie hacker crap. Any time a vulnerability surfaces on a system like this, news spreads like wildfire and every parents-basement-dwelling idiot and his Butthead sidekick start sniffing around for sites to OwN. Dickholes.

K

 

I get it too on IE6. I thought I had a virus or something (can never really trust IE or Winblows).

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GSpeedR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No "Moo" cuz I'm Mac'n. </TD></TR></TABLE>

No Moo here either.

 

From the page source - looks intended, not a hack

&lt;style type="text/css"&gt;
.h2 { background: #E8E8E8; height:24; font-weight: bold; color:black; }
.mf { border-style: dotted; border-color: #555555; border-width: 1px; }
IMG { max-width: 700; }
BODY { cursor: url(http://images.honda-tech.com/moo.cur); }
&lt;/style&gt;


Firefox here, no Moo , did get it on IE 6.0, NS4.7 took a poop on reload - ???

 

Man, I wish they would fix this ****!


Is Mozilla really that much better than IE? How many would recommend the free download software?

 

mozilla firefox &gt; IE

 

Yeah, it's fixed!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by prkiller &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, it's fixed!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Dang! I always miss the fun stuff!!!

 

Mozilla is the best.... Old school Java not the microsoft java ......

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by prkiller &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Same here my friend.

I was waiting to see someone else posting about it so I knew I was not crazy!


It's really damn annoying....... </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah ... Me too! THat is funny!

 

actually, in my opinion, mozilla firefox &gt;&gt; IE.

Tabbed browsing, native pop-up blocking, keyword bookmarks, and oodles of downloadable extensions (including gesture browsing) are the main things I like about it, other than _much_ fewer exploit issues (it turns out this was not an exploit, I guess, but even so..)

But, truth in advertising time: older computers will often need to download a new version of Java for it to work with Mozilla/Firefox. If you are a flash junkie, you'll have to get that plugin for Mozilla/Firefox again too. Also some sites out there are stupidly written and will discriminate against non-IE browsers (usually for no reason).

I say this because I have trouble getting my wife to use Firefox because a number of the websites she visits are among those that discriminate. You can download extensions so that Mozilla/Firefox lies to the website and that fixes things most of the times... Also, sometimes foreign languages are not handled so well.

Still though, browsing in IE leaves me feel like I'm using a crippled moron of a browser, and one that's likely to give me a disease at any moment. Firefox makes me think it does what I want it to do, not what someone else wants it to do...

Opera is another option too... but it's easier to advocate great Free stuff to people than closed source stuff that either has ads or costs money (even if the program itself is reputed to be top notch as well).

I can't guarrantee you'll leave IE permanently after trying something else, though.. different people have different needs and ways of using things.

 

Since this conversation's gone there, I currently have IE6, two versions of Netscape Navigator, Mozilla, Opera, and even the Wemedia talking browser installed on my two machines (work and home). I've even played with a "browser on a disk" - a thin app that boots AND runs a browser off of an HD diskette.

At the end of the day though, a "standard" is a standard for a reason. Whether we like it or not, when something gets enough penetration, it becomes a convention. The metric system might make more sense than inches, feet, and miles but I'm forced by standards to use the prevailing system. I always wander back to IE because much of the web publishing world assumes that I will.

It's like the Borg thing without the sexy rubber suits.

K

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">At the end of the day though, a "standard" is a standard for a reason.</TD></TR></TABLE>
&lt;quibble&gt; I think "de-facto standard" would do a better job of describing IE than just plain "standard". I'd also say the reason it achieved and will maintain "de-facto standard" status is that it was pre-installed on/embedded in everyone's computers.&lt;/quibble&gt;

This does not and was not intended to refute any points you make.

Just as some projects and environments will work out better using the metric system of units, and others the english/SAE system, there may be people out there of the type who will appreciate the features of alternative browsers and not experience any problems these days by not doing exactly what the world assumes they will. And sometimes even if there are annoyances of using an alternative browser, they are still less so than those of using IE.

Anyway, back on topic.. anyone find out _WHY_ someone was screwing around with that cursor code? Just a lark? A mistake? (just curious)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MechE00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anyone find out _WHY_ someone was screwing around with that cursor code? Just a lark? A mistake? (just curious)</TD></TR></TABLE>
I would say the owners of this web board did it... because they can.

If you did not like it.. tough.

 

Well since I don't care why someone wanted to moo everyone Kirk, one of the things to look at is not that IE is the standard, but why its a standard of sorts. I have been lucky inasmuch I have been able to write code for a number of browsers going back to Mosaic (this was pre Netscape ... which was to be pronounced "Mozilla" actually - hrmm, ain't that strange - Beta), actually had the ehehh pleasure of using a Lynx system for a while

From my memory, Microsoft didn't have a browsing product pre 1996-7. Between the time of pre-Netscape Gold and Netscape 3.0, it really was the standard in every way (not sure who you'd consider the OB as Mosaic had a working product out first from my memory and the "promise" of what Netscape Beta would bring was months away for the non-institutional user). Only thing was that you kinda had to write well formed HMTL - those bastards! Oh I do miss blinky bad source some days. There had always been editors out there for "HTML development" but I don't recall any of them being worth the time to install. When Microsoft began to make exporting tools however for MS Office products (not Front Page but MS Word exports and the like), you suddenly had a ton of folks (this was my recollection at UG in 1997) who were HTML developers, just they had to be browsed w/ IE 3.0 because they were essentially poorly written (well, exported to be fair). I personally think that was the beginning of IE being popular - that you could write crap in and not get crap out. I don't think it was MSFTs plan for world domination, just rush to market ... but what do I know. Maybe that was Bill Gates' plan all along, take over with bad code so he could one day give 30 billion to charity. BTW, slight digression here but I think its awesome that B&M Gates Foundation just added 3 billion by its dividend payout yesterday.

I don't think it was too long that Netscape was talking about open source and by the time NS Communicator came out, I think a lot of folks believed that IE 4.0 was a better product. Hey, remember, its just the opinion of this here guy typing, not world agreement. The real problem to me even back in those 3.x versions though where javascript was already being handled differently on each browser and the well-fomedness of the html were being treated differently - such that stuff that worked in IE didn't work in those NS browsers. After a while, w/ styles and scripts, you could have something that worked well in NS not show up in IE - no longer was there an LCD but rather a pick your poision.

I still have here Netscape 3.04 (still a great browser) to test everything we did up to this year for one client. I also have NS 4.7, Opera, Firefox, Mozilla 1.7, IE 6, a Web TV emulator, Bobby tester and some IBM Web Reader (can't recall the name off hand and don't recall which box its on). Seemingly, the only way to make everything work on all of these was to really limit what you are doing visually, load it up with a ton of labels (as alt tags are no longer sufficient for all VI readers) and very much limit the client side manipulation.

I personally am not a fan of NS4x and Opera. The latter because it uses more memory than watching Dennis Miller reruns from the 80s, the former cause its just the ugliest thing to look at. I like the Mozilla Products and IE is great for testing .Net/VI/J++ and ActiveX Controls since its easy to do the clicky run thing. But to think that Mozilla is "safer" is a bit naiive IMO. Safer today perhaps as hackers are only going to write exploits if there are enough people using a particular product to make it worth their time (and I think they are fucksticks for doing so but that's not the current point), who'd try to exploit a hole in Netscape 2.0b today??

I miss the days when we just had to write out Perl script to keep the jerks from shelling out on the server, now they can have us loaded up w/ adware crap before we test our own work Still smarting from those msits ***ks.

Just the opinions of one guy, not meant to be a true or accurate history of the internet by any means.

 

I tried Firefox and moved back to IE.

Take that for what you will.