Whenever I go around a corner my front tires screech, not very loud or anything, but they do it at lower speeds also. I am just not sure which part of my suspension I should be looking at. I know my tires and my car should be able to take corners at much higher speeds without making so much noise, but I just lack the knowledge needed to figure it out on my own. thanks

If this has already been covered, I apologize, just post the link, I tried searching first...

 

what type of tires are you running?

 

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Do you mean on a race track, on an autocross course, or on the street?

(I'm getting my flame suit ready if he says street...)

 

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Do you mean on a race track, on an autocross course, or on the street?

(I'm getting my flame suit ready if he says street...) </TD></TR></TABLE>
in tha canyons yo!

christian, who was hoping to avoid the question of what sort of corners 93-GSR was referring to...

 

"install more air pressures"

 

the tires are Michelin pilots, OE for my car, and yes it is on the street, no I am not racing on the street, just talking about everyday driving that we all do

if you're wondering why in the hell Im posting in this forum, that would be because I have found that the people in this forum generally know a hell of a lot more than people in the integra forum as many of you will attest to I am sure of

 

I keep the tires right around 35lbs for the most part, just like they manufacture says to

 

Could be a couple of things...

1. You're driving too fast on the street.

2. Alignment issue

3. Your tires suck

4. Reruns of Duke's of Hazard is playing on your stereo.

Seriously though some tires have different characteristics then others. One of those characteristics is noise.

 

If the OE tire is the same tire that was on the 3rd generation Integras (Michelin XGT V4s), it is probably due to the fact that you have the worst tires ever manufactured. Pick up a set of solid rubber vulcanized tires and you'd be upgrading.

 

1. Yes, I do drive too fast on the streets sometimes, I understand why everyone in this forum talks down on that, but I still do drive responsibly on the street, not anything like Dukes o' Hazard.

2. Alignment was just done recently and by looking at it (yes I know that is VERY inaccurate), they all seem straight with some negative camber on all 4

3. Tires, could be, but when I bought them they were some of the best they shop I was at had to offer for my car, I even tried a pair of Kuhmo's (cant remember the model) and they were horrible, the sidewalls were soft as paper, which was when I back to the Michelin Pilots

I know noise is factor of tires, but I did not know that screeching noise was a factor, I was under the impression that is was road noise, them just being loud while driving, rubber rubbing on asphalt noise, is screeching noise what they meant when they said road noise? thanks for any help

 

I like the Aziens but need something that can handle some water on the road

 

Azenis are OK for water, but not for snow.

With any tire, or for that matter modification, there is always a trade off. Performance tires that might not make noise aren't going to last very long and might not be good for rain and/or snow.

I'd suggest, if you haven't checked it yet, looking at the reviews at tirerack.com. They usually have some decent folks write up reviews.

 

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*sigh*


&lt;---------- Driving the best rain tires he's ever had: Azenis.

 

thanks emwavey for your responses

interesting, I thought that by the looks of the tread pattern on the Azeins that they would handle like crap in wet weather

Anything else that it might besides the tires? suspension is GC coil-overs (stock rates) with AGXs(front) blues(rear) droped ~1in

 

This is a somewhat inaccurate comparison, as it applies to track use and not "normal street driving", but I recently drove on two different tires than I'm used to, the Kumho 711s and the stock runflat Goodyear RSAs (I'm used to Azenis), and they both had different "squealing" points, regardless of the point at which they actually lost traction. The Kumhos squealed a lot, sort of all the time, the Goodyears didn't squeal at all until they overheated, and I'm used to the Azenis squealing a little as they come close to their traction threshold, and then more when they start to get greasy.

 

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You have to avoid puddles as the tread gets low, moreso than most tires, but otherwise, they're awesome.

 

thanks for the usefull info maxQ and sscguy

 

As said, Azenis will hydroplane pretty easily in standing water, not fun on track. In the damp, they do just fine.

Anytime there is a weather emergency, I'm driving through it...with Azenis. So I can tell you first hand, they will try to kill you in the snow. Don't give them the chance.

 

Azenis.... Worked fine at 105mph on a very wet Mid-Ohio track.

 

in Sacramento we never see snow, but thanks for the warning, how fast does the tread wear down on these Azeins?

 

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You're driving too fast.

 

It's been a very long time since I've driven on those, but from what I remember ANY speed was too fast for them

 

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2. Alignment was just done recently and by looking at it (yes I know that is VERY inaccurate), they all seem straight with some negative camber on all 4 </TD></TR></TABLE>

Curious, why did you recently have an alignment done? Basic maintenance... just did some mods to the car... or did you have a run in with a curb or something?

The reason I ask is if you are noticing more tire squeal after the alignment, it could be the result of what caused you to get an alignment in the first place...

For instance, if you got a "ProKit" or something and dropped the car about 2" or so, obviously you'll have more negative camber, and this could help the contact patch on the outside, but lessen the contact patch of the inside tires around a turn... causing more squeal.

If for instance you had a run in with a curb and not just knocked the alignment out, but also bent a suspension piece, and alignment shop would do their best to align the car around the problem, but not necessarily solve the root problem.

There are lots of possibilities... but my first impression is that your tires just have a high noise characteristics.

Just some miscellanious thoughts and ramblings.

-dave, who used to clip cards to his bike 'cause it sounded cool.
8)

 

really, rain is not an issue with azenies. If you can't keep your speeds down when its raining, I am sorry, you souldn't be driving. When it's a light rain, don't do 90. When you can barely see out the windsheild, don't go 70. It is ok to drop your speeds down when it is really wet out. It's called selfcontrol.

 

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Then maybe it's okay to ask for a recipe for creme brulee here, because people here know a lot of stuff and maybe someone would know how to make one.

Then again, maybe neither question belongs here.

I can tell you about the squealing of those tires on my GS-R, but I only answer Integra questions in the Integra forum.