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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 11:48 PM
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anyone else seen this awd/rwd integra in honda tuning? it had a cr-v tranny, transfer case and rear diff hooked up. they said you could remove the front axles and run it rwd for burnouts and drifting!!! could this rwd setup be done on a civic? does anyone know the details on this project? i know they had to disable the real time system from the cr-v, does that then make it strictly rwd?
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 11:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by urhomieblaze &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anyone else seen this awd/rwd integra in honda tuning? it had a cr-v tranny, transfer case and rear diff hooked up. they said you could remove the front axles and run it rwd for burnouts and drifting!!! could this rwd setup be done on a civic? does anyone know the details on this project? i know they had to disable the real time system from the cr-v, does that then make it strictly rwd? </TD></TR></TABLE>


As a matter of fact you could probably do a longitude mounted k-series use the F-series RWD from the S2000, or to make its easier use the S2000 motor and trans.

You would have to cut the firewall and makea tranny tunnel and be a very good welder.

But some people haven't done that way, CR-V is'nt exactly and AWD you want.

In WRC cars that are not available in AWD they use mitsubishi components.

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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 08:34 AM
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i think using the s200 parts would be too expensve and not enough salvage yards have s2k's or parts.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 08:39 AM
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If you want AWD or RWD then buy a car that already has it. Thats the best/easiest way to go about it. The money you'd spend to make the conversion just doesn't make sense. Find ways to make FWD work to its highest potential.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 08:52 AM
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yeah, it dont make sense and would be cheaper to go buy a 240. but why be like everyone else. this is not a project for the faint or half hearted. it is one hell on a conversion. it might scare a few kids in its complexity and price range, but anything easy is never worth doing.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 08:58 AM
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turbo, lsd, suspension, slick/drag radials (not exactly the easiest thing to make work, and its fun as hell, fast as hell as well....Ill stick with that kind of complexity )....and I think you'd be more then happy with 500whp.

ill stick with my fwd and instead of forking out money on a rwd/awd conversion ill save up to finish paying off my college education.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 09:15 AM
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everything you listed is simple simon. don't act like your the only one who ever did a turbo son. i highly doubt you have anything that even closely resmbles 500hp. just cause your scared and broke. dont **** on my thread. if you dont have anything construtive to add ,shut up.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 09:21 AM
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to make an integra AWD, you'd have to remove the rear suspension, find a new one, and raise the car a little. One COULD do it with a CRV system. there IS a AWD integra in Japan if you did not know.

now, putting the S2000 components in? Hah! the engine bay isn't long enough; you'd have to have a funny hood to accomodate the block. And welding a tunnel for the tranny in an INTEGRA? Where? Such a beast would look horrid, and probably drive horrid, too.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 11:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by urhomieblaze &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">everything you listed is simple simon. don't act like your the only one who ever did a turbo son. i highly doubt you have anything that even closely resmbles 500hp. just cause your scared and broke. dont **** on my thread. if you dont have anything construtive to add ,shut up. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Patdemps knows more than you think. He's just trying to give you advice. There are a few threads in the GDD forum about a RWD Civic hatch, so take a look at those and see if you can find out info about that.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=568432

Other than that....the money invested wouldn't be worth it. For a lot less, you'd be faster and more reliable with a powerful FWD setup. Go buy an RWD/AWD from the start and work from there. You'll be a lot happier in the long run. Modifying a car that much from a car that isn't made to do that isn't going to yield favorable results.

There is a reason not many people do this. It's called $$$. You do realize that this may easily cost $20K. Probably more.

Okay I'm done. Good luck with it though, if you decide to go through with it.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 11:39 AM
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thanks the info ,but this setup wouldn't be for being the fasted. it would be for whos the craziest (ME)and can do more fab work(ME). 20k is a outragous claim unless crv drivtrain is made of gold. i heard some dood named blake on here has a rwd integra.
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 11:47 AM
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I to am following this build-up and I am contemplating building one of my own. I do agree that you will need a good amount of welding experience. I plan of getting a shell and going from there.

It will be a very complex build, but not impossible. I was considering using a S2K rear end instead of the CRV's. The rear suspension will stay intact, there will be alot of tube frame building to hold the rear end. I plan to cage this car so this will take care of that.

I see that people suggest going for a AWD/RWD from the factory. I bet when I am done, mine will be just as good. The cool thing with the CRV conversion is the ability to switch from AWD to RWD with the removel of the front axles. You cant add AWD to a 240SX.

I say do it, just plan it out in extreme detail before you begin. I can't imagine lining up next to a ZO6 (405 HP) and just ripping him out of the hole and through all the gears. I understand you can build a FWD to beat a ZO6, you'll just never take him off the line. Plus I live in CO and AWD Turbo Teg would be fun in the snow.

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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 05:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by patdemps &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you want AWD or RWD then buy a car that already has it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Not what he asked.

A rwd civic would be lighter than any common rwd on the streets.

RWD civic would also be better than any FWD civic.

Beside's RWD is the only layout that will mess with awd on takeoff.
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 05:25 AM
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dammm I wish I had the link
of the following..
maybe a search could help you

awd CRX turbo project write up
rwd acura integra vid

but yes it has been done...
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 05:32 AM
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for the money you would spend you would be way faster to buy a 240 and swap in an sr20. 240's can be had for around 2k by the time ur donw with the swap u might b up to 6k total for the project.

an s2k powered teg like ur sayin would b impresive but way to much money esp when you consider other options
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 06:29 AM
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http://www.hondatuningmag.com Might have the articles on the build? I haven't checked yet. If not I have all the issues with the build. They had to do a lot of welding and fabrication to make it work. They also welded the rear diff. and center diff. to make the system more active rather than the real time 4wd that comes stock.
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 07:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redrex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for the money you would spend you would be way faster to buy a 240 and swap in an sr20. 240's can be had for around 2k by the time ur donw with the swap u might b up to 6k total for the project.

an s2k powered teg like ur sayin would b impresive but way to much money esp when you consider other options</TD></TR></TABLE>

No one want to swap an old *** motor, into a heavy *** nissan SR are B-series old.

Honda-tuning doesn't have that article on there site.

Civicxturbo why dont you scan it then post it?
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 07:29 AM
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yeah i got part 3&4 of the build but missed the begining. i know they had to modify the driveshaft and remove the oil pumps and clutch pack from the real time.weld up the input and output on the real time and weld the spider gears in the rear dif and shorten the axles to fit in a teg.
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 12:56 PM
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Heres what you got to do, you ethier got to fab a rear subframe to hold another differential from a supra.

Or you can do this weld the CR-V

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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 01:01 PM
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who cares?
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 01:14 PM
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Did you check with the owner of the car (Blake) before you posted that pic?
Might want to.
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 02:12 PM
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No one want to swap an old *** motor, into a heavy *** nissan SR are B-series old.

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So ur sayin ppl dont want to swap motors that are "b series old" then why does everyone who has a honda do that??

Point is for the work and money involved the end results arent worth it
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 02:40 PM
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damn that pic was tight. whats this about a supra rearend? everyone who says this ain't worth it is just player hating cause they can't do it.
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 03:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by urhomieblaze &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damn that pic was tight. whats this about a supra rearend? everyone who says this ain't worth it is just player hating cause they can't do it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You can use a supra rear cause people have done 8's with L.S.D. on it in the prostock nopi class and it wieght 100lbs so if you were to go RWD its a benefit to have wieght there.
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 03:40 PM
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kind of off topic but arent all the awd crv's automatics???
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 10:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by silver00teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">kind of off topic but arent all the awd crv's automatics???</TD></TR></TABLE>

all crvs are auto
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