hey guys i have been looking into the greddy kit and like to here your thoughts on it

and while im doing this if anyone is intrested in some parts checkout this link
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=930126

 

Greddy always makes a quality product. And now with Hondata reflashing ECUs to fit Greddy's turbo kits, it is even better. If you have to pass emissions, I suggest Greddy. If not, you can go Cybernation. Cybernation puts out more power and the only thing separating their stage 1 and stage 2 kits is the forged internals, i.e. - you can easily increase your power by slapping in a set of forged pistons and rods and then you can up the boost.

 

thats a reall good suggestion but need to geet rid of these parts

 

i have the Greddy kit and i must say it is a quality kit....if it is your kit of choice let me tell you some things ahead of time that you would only find out if you opened the instruction book and read, cause some people such as myself were unaware of these things. Greddy recommends that you get a FMIC AND COLDER THAN FACTORY SPARK PLUGS... the FMIC doesn't come with the kit nor do the plugs so these were expences i didn't count on having to get... just a heads up! Another suggestion, do EVERYTHING ACCORDING TO THE INSTRUCTIONS, it will benefit in the long run and make you feel better about the installation, that is if you do it yourself

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kal &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can easily increase your power by slapping in a set of forged pistons and rods and then you can up the boost.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you can easily up the boost without the forged internals. forged internals won't stop detonation from occurring, only stand up better to poor tuning. boost doesn't kill an engine. detonation does. if you can dyno tune and get the a/f ratio where it needs to be forged internals wont be needed. 14.7 psi only increased rod load by 20%. higher boost pressure increase chances of detonation because of the heat, and the tuning gets more difficult.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kal &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Greddy always makes a quality product. And now with Hondata reflashing ECUs to fit Greddy's turbo kits, it is even better.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hondata hasnt offered the Greddy reflash for some time now, the K-pro for the Greddy kit will be out soon.

Which I can vouch for, my car is running very well with the Greddy+K-pro combo

 

yes, i have read your identical post to another thread.

fact of the matter is that true that detonation does destroy motors but forged internals can withstand the pressures of boost (side effect: detonation) a significant amount more than stock internals do. I know for H motors, the weak ringlands cause the motor to fail...not too much detonation.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kal &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes, i have read your identical post to another thread.

fact of the matter is that true that detonation does destroy motors but forged internals can withstand the pressures of boost (side effect: detonation) a significant amount more than stock internals do. I know for H motors, the weak ringlands cause the motor to fail...not too much detonation.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well who makes good internals for the ep3 im not trying to boost that much but every little bit helps

 

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detonation is not a side effect of boost pressure. detonation is the effect of premature ignition of fuel before the discharge of the spark plug. and you don't need turbo charger or supercharger to experience this. advanced ignition timing can cause it. lower than required octane level can cause it. high compression levels like 11.5:1, 12:1, 12.5 can cause it. excessive carbon build up can cause it. forced induction increase the combustion temperatures more dramatically than anything else, and this is what causes the detonation.

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forged internals can withstand detonation and preignition a significant amount more than stock internals. boost pressure is not detonation nor is it preignition.

the increased compressed air from the turbo charger or super charger itself won't cause any damage. the heat from the compressed air igniting the fuel before TDC is where the damage comes from.

 

That's what I'm planning to do.

 

How hard on an engine is a turbo kit? Does it dramatically decrease the life? Everyone has a different opinion. I feel like Huggy Bear knows what he is talking about when it comes to FI. I am just wondering what a turbo will do to my engine life.

Thanks

 

Yea, Cybernation kits are making some good power on the K-Series.

 

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Thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

like said above, if its tuned properly, and you maintain it right, shouldn't be a problem.

 

well have you heard any thing about the rev hard stage to