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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 01:27 PM
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he guys i bought a compustar 2wfm-as for my 92 civic dx and i have some questions i hope someone could answer
1. it says the starter wire is black/white, now there are two wires from the starter that are black and white, one is BLACK with White and one is WHITE with black, which one do i need?
2.there are a couple wires i don't get
lights output
status output
ignition output
accessory output
starter output

where do these wires go?
3.where is the wire for the regualr brakes? it says on the brake column but i cant find it
4. where should i mount my shock sensor?
thanks guys!!!
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 01:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Btothe3rdDegree &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1. it says the starter wire is black/white, now there are two wires from the starter that are black and white, one is BLACK with White and one is WHITE with black, which one do i need?</TD></TR></TABLE>


The first color is the main color, the second color after the slash is the stripe color.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Btothe3rdDegree &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">2.there are a couple wires i don't get
lights output
status output
ignition output
accessory output
starter output</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ligths output I guess is the output to your flashing lights. Status is I think is the LED...not sure though. Ignition is the 12V wire that is powered only when your ignition is on. Accessory...if you add any kind of accessories. Starter..not sure. I will start installing mine tonight...I never really done it, but did lots of reading, so I know moreless how it should go. Read a lot if you never done it and want to do it yourself.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Btothe3rdDegree &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">4. where should i mount my shock sensor?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Somethig that is stable. Steering column I think is a good choice.


Just wait for some more knowledgeable people to come by....
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 04:56 PM
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anyone else?
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 05:08 PM
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Where are you reading this info about wires from?
For starter kill, they should supply with a relay and harness. Some alarms have the relay built-in.

Need more info.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 05:23 PM
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its from the compustar manual
they say
(-)light output 250 mA
(-)status output 250 mA
(-)ignition output 250 mA
(-)accessory output mA
(-)starter output mA

i just dont know where these wires are supposed to go
also where is the brake wire?
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 05:27 PM
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Let me try to help a lil better...

Just to comfirm the wire you have is the right one, you need to check with a test light or volt meter at the possible starter wire and try to start the car with the key. When you get 12V at start, that's your wire. Cut it and interconnect the relay.

Lights output should be used as a night supervsion headlights. That's an output that requires a relay. Use it if you want that option. Normally, parking lights is the one you use on alarms and is usually a white wire.

Status output, like he said, could be a LED connection or so.

Ignition out put could be when you have an ignition 3 that requires a 12V input when crank. You don't need that in your Civic.

Accessory output should be used for the accessory wire that powers you AC or Heater. Some installers use this too for cranking up other accessories such radios and sound systems.

Starter output is the one that sends 12V after the starter kill relay and cranks your vehicle up. Normally it is yellow.

The brake wire is very easy. At the brake pedal, there's a switch. This switch has a constant 12V side and a 12V only when you depress the pedal. That's your wire.
Usually connected to shut of the engine when remote started.

Some manufacturers recomend to zip tie the shock sensor to a bundle of wires and easy access to adjust. This way it picks up vibraions better.

Hope it helps better now,

Eric
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 05:30 PM
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For all those values you give, all the outputs require relays if used. Most of those you don't need.

Brake wire is at the pedal.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 05:57 PM
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so all i really need is the light one right? what kind of relay do i need? i am supprised i need one because the the other ones (accesory, starter, so on) already had relays
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 05:58 PM
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thanks eric
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 08:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Btothe3rdDegree &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its from the compustar manual
they say
(-)light output 250 mA
(-)status output 250 mA
(-)ignition output 250 mA
(-)accessory output mA
(-)starter output mA

i just dont know where these wires are supposed to go
also where is the brake wire?</TD></TR></TABLE> light output is for cars that use a - to trip a relay for your parklights [toyota]. status output has a 250mA output when you hit the remote start button [ for transponder key bypass mod.] ,ign.out to trip relay if your car needs a second ign., acc. out, 2nd acc., starter out 2nd starter

You will not need any of these wires. brake wire is on braket next to brake peddle high up. 94
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 04:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> light output is for cars that use a - to trip a relay for your parklights [toyota]. status output has a 250mA output when you hit the remote start button [ for transponder key bypass mod.] ,ign.out to trip relay if your car needs a second ign., acc. out, 2nd acc., starter out 2nd starter

You will not need any of these wires. brake wire is on braket next to brake peddle high up. 94</TD></TR></TABLE>
so i dont need any of those output wires? thanks man i didn't think i did.
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 06:29 AM
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No they are for extra things you don't need. 94
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 07:16 AM
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yeah i checked around i guess they are for if there is a factory alarm on the car, so i dont need em
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 10:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Btothe3rdDegree &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah i checked around i guess they are for if there is a factory alarm on the car, so i dont need em
</TD></TR></TABLE> NO, lots of cars have more then one ign.,acc., or start wire that have to be energized when in remote start mode, they are wires that are otherwise isolated from each other, so they have to be energized separately, the status wire is used to turn on the "black box" that makes the ECU think that there is a "transponder" key in the ign. switch so the fuel pump or injectors stay on. they have nothing to do with factory alarms. 94
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 10:11 PM
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hey fcm, do you know if I'll need any of these wires for the 2000 lude? I think only the status output for the bypass module that you mentioned? Correct?
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Old Jul 17, 2004 | 07:07 AM
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Not sure, I can't think of a honda that has more then one ign.,acc.,starter,I will check today at work. 94
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Old Jul 17, 2004 | 06:59 PM
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see thats what i dont get, one place says there is one accesory, and another said there is two
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Old Jul 17, 2004 | 07:23 PM
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Well here it is for the 2000 prelude Odessa ,No you dont need them, just status,
12v-white
ign-black w/yellow
acc-yellow
starter-black w/ red
tach-blue at tach test connector [1 pin plug in front of right shock tower]
injector-opposite from yellow w/ black [compustars seem to work better when injector used for tach pickup]
hope this helps. 94
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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Thanks for the info

The more I read about all this alarm install stuff, the more I understand that I probably don't even need half of the wires on compustar
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 08:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Btothe3rdDegree &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">see thats what i dont get, one place says there is one accesory, and another said there is two</TD></TR></TABLE>

What kind of car do you have, that your putting this compustar into? 94
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Old Jul 19, 2004 | 10:24 AM
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The arm and disarm outputs on this alarm, are they to be connected to the factory alarm? I don't think I have a factory alarm...

And what about the advertised "anti car jack" feature on this alarm? I don't seem to find anything about it in the manual. What is it anyway?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Odessa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The arm and disarm outputs on this alarm, are they to be connected to the factory alarm? I don't think I have a factory alarm...

And what about the advertised "anti car jack" feature on this alarm? I don't seem to find anything about it in the manual. What is it anyway?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you don't have a OEM alarm, you don't need them, the anti car jack feature I'm not familier with as we haven't used it yet up here ,car jacking isn;t a problem here yet ,thank God. 94
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Old Jul 24, 2004 | 08:56 PM
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fcm, you should know this, small question about the bypass... I read the instructions today and it said to connect one wire from the bypass to the negative, isolated ignition output of the remote start. Do I connect this to the Status output or to the 2nd ignition? Or to the normal (1st) ignition and isolate these?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Odessa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">fcm, you should know this, small question about the bypass... I read the instructions today and it said to connect one wire from the bypass to the negative, isolated ignition output of the remote start. Do I connect this to the Status output or to the 2nd ignition? Or to the normal (1st) ignition and isolate these?</TD></TR></TABLE> ther should be 3 wires on the bypass mod., ground, constant power, and "trigger" the trigger,or input, needs a ground , the status output of the Compustar puts out a ground in remote start mode, this way the transponder key system still works normaly.

hope this helps 94
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 02:51 PM
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Ok, thanks for clarifying the bypass thing... Now another question There are 2 constant 12v wires on connector 1. One is with a prewired relay. Do I have to use this 2nd 12v if I don't need 2nd ign/acc/starter wires found on connector 2?
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