Tech / Misc Tech topics that don't seem to go elsewhere.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

aluminum welding ?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 14, 2004 | 08:24 PM
  #1  
eda6's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,785
Likes: 1
From: phoenix, az
Default aluminum welding ?

I plan on using a 3/8" od piece of aluminum tubing
to replace the brake booster vacuum port on an itr im.

i have an oxy/acetelyne torch. Question is what flux
and solder should i get?

Or should i use jb weld? I'm open to other ideas.

TIA


Reply
Old Jul 15, 2004 | 08:09 PM
  #2  
eda6's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,785
Likes: 1
From: phoenix, az
Default Re: aluminum welding ? (eda6 hb)

bizzump
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2004 | 08:16 PM
  #3  
Sliced Beard's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 7,383
Likes: 1
From: Charleston, SC
Default Re: aluminum welding ? (eda6 hb)

in order to properly build that and get a good seal you will need to use a TIG or MIG welding machine

you cannot braze aluminum, uyou can only "hot bond it" pretty much solderring it, but it is very weak

and another why would you want to even attempt to JB weld it together? what happens when the intake mani breaks while you have the engine running and you get an immediate flow of air?


something to ponder on
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2004 | 08:32 PM
  #4  
eda6's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,785
Likes: 1
From: phoenix, az
Default Re: aluminum welding ? (dirtyd463)

Can any welding shop perform this?
I want the best seal possible.
I braze copper at work.
I figured i could fill in the gaps but i didn't know how it would hold up.
JB weld was another option. Never dealt with it.
The people i work with said it would work.
I searched ht and found that there were more bad experiences with it than good.
Thanks for the quick reply.
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2004 | 08:50 PM
  #5  
Sliced Beard's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 7,383
Likes: 1
From: Charleston, SC
Default Re: aluminum welding ? (eda6 hb)

well what you have brought up thinking will work can work if s=done properly but will not be strong in any way shape or form and you will eventually have problems with a leaky manifold.

just take it to a competent welder and he can do whatever you want dome welding wise
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2004 | 08:58 PM
  #6  
eda6's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,785
Likes: 1
From: phoenix, az
Default Re: aluminum welding ? (dirtyd463)

You've answered all my ?'s.

I'll ask around for a top notch welder.

Thanx.
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2004 | 09:29 PM
  #7  
boostn420's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 335
Likes: 0
From: ca, USA
Default Re: aluminum welding ? (eda6 hb)

Your nuts, just thread the hole and use a normal brass barbed fitting with teflon tape. It wont leak and wont take that long to do yourself either. Just dont forget to clean out the shavings before you put it back on.
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2004 | 09:35 PM
  #8  
Sliced Beard's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 7,383
Likes: 1
From: Charleston, SC
Default Re: aluminum welding ? (boostn420)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostn420 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your nuts, just thread the hole and use a normal brass barbed fitting with teflon tape. It wont leak and wont take that long to do yourself either. Just dont forget to clean out the shavings before you put it back on.</TD></TR></TABLE>

did you even read what he was trying to do?
please do not post if you do not understand what he is trying to do
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2004 | 09:41 PM
  #9  
eda6's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,785
Likes: 1
From: phoenix, az
Default Re: aluminum welding ? (boostn420)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostn420 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your nuts, just thread the hole and use a normal brass barbed fitting with teflon tape. It wont leak and wont take that long to do yourself either. Just dont forget to clean out the shavings before you put it back on.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That was my first idea. I got 1/8" and 1/4" brass fittings from home depot. I used a 1/8" npt tap and the threads got all fucked up. If i use a 1/4" tap there will be next to nothing left. I created this thread after that fell through. I think dirtyd463 has the best solution. Thanks for your input.
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2004 | 09:43 PM
  #10  
boostn420's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 335
Likes: 0
From: ca, USA
Default Re: aluminum welding ? (dirtyd463)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dirtyd463 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

did you even read what he was trying to do?
please do not post if you do not understand what he is trying to do</TD></TR></TABLE>

I read exactly what he wants to do and I dont see any good reason for it. Why risk welding a weak aluminum fittint when you can thread one in with no problem. I do happen to know what is going on and also that a brass fitting is going to be a stonger, quicker solution, with less potential for a bad seal (contaminated weld if case your too slow).

You have no idea of what I do and dont understand. This type of **** reminds me why I rarely visit this site anymore.

please do not post if all you intend to do is be an *** and you arent going to try to help with the subject at hand.
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2004 | 10:02 PM
  #11  
Sliced Beard's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 7,383
Likes: 1
From: Charleston, SC
Default Re: aluminum welding ? (boostn420)

my intentions were not to be an ***, I was just stating that it would be smarter to get it welded properly

I am a government certifiesd welder...my solution to every problem is to weld it

I am just saying pretty much the same thing he is, hte IM is too thin to get a proper thread in order to install a barbed fitting...but honestly, if he could installa barbed fitting it would probably have just as good of a seal as it would be welded

but since he has not been sucessful at tapping the hole he really has no choice but to weld it now


he needs to be shure that he needs to find a decent welder because that is a thin piece of aluminum to weld
Reply
Old Jul 15, 2004 | 11:15 PM
  #12  
JDMorgan's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,775
Likes: 0
From: Danbury, CT, 06804
Default Re: aluminum welding ? (dirtyd463)


^this is the ****^
its a diy welding kit for aluminum, you take a torch heat the **** out of what ur welding then apply the rod.
Reply
Old Jul 16, 2004 | 02:12 AM
  #13  
Sliced Beard's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 7,383
Likes: 1
From: Charleston, SC
Default Re: aluminum welding ? (KraZEtEggIE)

^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
FMN716
Welding / Fabrication
8
Oct 11, 2010 10:28 AM
DIABOLIC8
Welding / Fabrication
6
Jan 21, 2010 10:43 AM
RichieHemingway
Welding / Fabrication
3
Mar 10, 2008 10:26 PM
torontoefsedan
Welding / Fabrication
3
Feb 2, 2008 05:50 AM
Smoothy
Tech / Misc
4
Sep 26, 2003 08:12 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:45 PM.