jdm itr cams vs. ctr cams
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jdm itr cams vs. ctr cams
i have two offers on some cams. i can either pay 250 for ctr's or 300 for a set of 2000 jdm itr's. what i want to know is, whats the difference? i can read cam specs, but as far as how they perform i dont know. who has a reccomendation on this choice?
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Alright well i also may be wrong but i have the 2001 ITR cams and i heard that in the US the 2001 Type R cams are nearly identical or are identical to the CTR cams. I love cams but now i wish that i went with something more agressive.
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Re: jdm itr cams vs. ctr cams (silent_thoughts)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by silent_thoughts »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">CTR cams are the most aggresive honda cams(correct me if im wrong)..but ive heard ctr cams in a GSR before and its sounds amazing when vtec hits 
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you're they are most aggressive for honda, BUT CTR or ITR both are sux...they are ok if you're planing to use them in RS, LS, GS, or old Si engines...for GSR they dont worth the money that they performed, you might like the sound of those cams, i am up to the performance of HP's/TQ's. They are cheap though, i'll give you that, but why would you buy soem that is cheap but hardly get any performance, especially for GSR
to no2accord:
jdm itr cams vs. ctr cams (CTR and ITR 250 or 300 are normal price, you can find them almost everywhere, so, stay tune)
wat engine are you planing to use those CTR or ITR, if GSR, dont do it man...through my experience of reading hundred of DYNO results, CTR and ITR are lower class cam, they sux,
here are some brand name you should reconsider
Crower Cams stage2 (more torque and hp gained)
Crane Cams
Competition Cams
June Stage 3 or 2 (massive hp gained)
Skunk2 ( i didnt' hear much about it)
oh well peace out now
</TD></TR></TABLE>you're they are most aggressive for honda, BUT CTR or ITR both are sux...they are ok if you're planing to use them in RS, LS, GS, or old Si engines...for GSR they dont worth the money that they performed, you might like the sound of those cams, i am up to the performance of HP's/TQ's. They are cheap though, i'll give you that, but why would you buy soem that is cheap but hardly get any performance, especially for GSR
to no2accord:
jdm itr cams vs. ctr cams (CTR and ITR 250 or 300 are normal price, you can find them almost everywhere, so, stay tune)
wat engine are you planing to use those CTR or ITR, if GSR, dont do it man...through my experience of reading hundred of DYNO results, CTR and ITR are lower class cam, they sux,
here are some brand name you should reconsider
Crower Cams stage2 (more torque and hp gained)
Crane Cams
Competition Cams
June Stage 3 or 2 (massive hp gained)
Skunk2 ( i didnt' hear much about it)
oh well peace out now
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Re: jdm itr cams vs. ctr cams (no2accord)
I am pretty sure but someone correct me if I am wrong, CTR and ITR cams won't work in non-vtec motors. If you are looking for an affordable set of cams for a GSR motor, I just got Skunk2 Stage 1s, pretty good deal on them, not a bad investment. I still need cam gears and tuning and I will be set.
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Re: jdm itr cams vs. ctr cams (yeegsr)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yeegsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
you're they are most aggressive for honda, BUT CTR or ITR both are sux...they are ok if you're planing to use them in RS, LS, GS, or old Si engines...for GSR they dont worth the money that they performed, you might like the sound of those cams, i am up to the performance of HP's/TQ's. They are cheap though, i'll give you that, but why would you buy soem that is cheap but hardly get any performance, especially for GSR
to no2accord:
jdm itr cams vs. ctr cams (CTR and ITR 250 or 300 are normal price, you can find them almost everywhere, so, stay tune)
wat engine are you planing to use those CTR or ITR, if GSR, dont do it man...through my experience of reading hundred of DYNO results, CTR and ITR are lower class cam, they sux,
here are some brand name you should reconsider
Crower Cams stage2 (more torque and hp gained)
Crane Cams
Competition Cams
June Stage 3 or 2 (massive hp gained)
Skunk2 ( i didnt' hear much about it)
oh well peace out now
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wow...
You need to factor in cost and reliabilty. Not everyone can pop jun stage 3 cams into their GSR. Well they techincally could, but it would be pointless with out raising the compression etc.
CTR/ITR cams produce proven gains- simple as that. They are pretty close in specs to the slightly more aggressive sks1 cams but many tuners reccomend ctr/itr cams due to oem quality and reliabilty.
Anywayz back to a reply for the original topic:
2000-2001 itr/ctr cams are the exact same (down to the spec)
1997-1999 ctr cams (intake) is slighty more aggressive than the itr 97-99 intake cam. The exhaust cams are the same
and btw the term "JDM" for JDM cams mean nothing.
you're they are most aggressive for honda, BUT CTR or ITR both are sux...they are ok if you're planing to use them in RS, LS, GS, or old Si engines...for GSR they dont worth the money that they performed, you might like the sound of those cams, i am up to the performance of HP's/TQ's. They are cheap though, i'll give you that, but why would you buy soem that is cheap but hardly get any performance, especially for GSR
to no2accord:
jdm itr cams vs. ctr cams (CTR and ITR 250 or 300 are normal price, you can find them almost everywhere, so, stay tune)
wat engine are you planing to use those CTR or ITR, if GSR, dont do it man...through my experience of reading hundred of DYNO results, CTR and ITR are lower class cam, they sux,
here are some brand name you should reconsider
Crower Cams stage2 (more torque and hp gained)
Crane Cams
Competition Cams
June Stage 3 or 2 (massive hp gained)
Skunk2 ( i didnt' hear much about it)
oh well peace out now
</TD></TR></TABLE>wow...
You need to factor in cost and reliabilty. Not everyone can pop jun stage 3 cams into their GSR. Well they techincally could, but it would be pointless with out raising the compression etc.
CTR/ITR cams produce proven gains- simple as that. They are pretty close in specs to the slightly more aggressive sks1 cams but many tuners reccomend ctr/itr cams due to oem quality and reliabilty.
Anywayz back to a reply for the original topic:
2000-2001 itr/ctr cams are the exact same (down to the spec)
1997-1999 ctr cams (intake) is slighty more aggressive than the itr 97-99 intake cam. The exhaust cams are the same
and btw the term "JDM" for JDM cams mean nothing.
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you wont get the full potential of any cam without proper tuning through cam gears and some sort of engine tuning. mild cams, titanium springs/retainers, adj. cam gears, apex v-afc, and dyno tune the bitch!
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Re: jdm itr cams vs. ctr cams (yeegsr)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yeegsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
you're they are most aggressive for honda, BUT CTR or ITR both are sux...they are ok if you're planing to use them in RS, LS, GS, or old Si engines...for GSR they dont worth the money that they performed, you might like the sound of those cams, i am up to the performance of HP's/TQ's. They are cheap though, i'll give you that, but why would you buy soem that is cheap but hardly get any performance, especially for GSR
to no2accord:
jdm itr cams vs. ctr cams (CTR and ITR 250 or 300 are normal price, you can find them almost everywhere, so, stay tune)
wat engine are you planing to use those CTR or ITR, if GSR, dont do it man...through my experience of reading hundred of DYNO results, CTR and ITR are lower class cam, they sux,
here are some brand name you should reconsider
Crower Cams stage2 (more torque and hp gained)
Crane Cams
Competition Cams
June Stage 3 or 2 (massive hp gained)
Skunk2 ( i didnt' hear much about it)
oh well peace out now
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riiight.
Ill just say this. With supporting mods I put down 190whp with my GSR with ITR cams. Its not all in your cams big guy, it what you want for power and where you want it. It also depends highly on your supporting mods (valvetrain, compression, etc). The bigger the cams, the more you must buy to compensate the gains....period. With ITR/CTR cams you can drop them in, tune them and see gains, there great midrange/top end cams for the price and there oem. If paired with the right setup and the right car owner that knows what they are doing then they can be very effective...I ran 14.1 all motor with my ITR cams last year before I went turbo and that was on a slick track night, a dry day and one more chance at the track I would have been sitting in the high 13's.
I know a ton of teg owners. I know more then a few that have much more aggressive cams then I had but I would have spanked them head to head if given the chance. Because my supporting mods and powerband was much more powerful.
Yes, ITR/CTR aren't that aggressive. But they can be very powerful if you know how to build a car and yes the other cams can give you more power, but they also run you more bills and need more compression/supporting mods to perform.
you're they are most aggressive for honda, BUT CTR or ITR both are sux...they are ok if you're planing to use them in RS, LS, GS, or old Si engines...for GSR they dont worth the money that they performed, you might like the sound of those cams, i am up to the performance of HP's/TQ's. They are cheap though, i'll give you that, but why would you buy soem that is cheap but hardly get any performance, especially for GSR
to no2accord:
jdm itr cams vs. ctr cams (CTR and ITR 250 or 300 are normal price, you can find them almost everywhere, so, stay tune)
wat engine are you planing to use those CTR or ITR, if GSR, dont do it man...through my experience of reading hundred of DYNO results, CTR and ITR are lower class cam, they sux,
here are some brand name you should reconsider
Crower Cams stage2 (more torque and hp gained)
Crane Cams
Competition Cams
June Stage 3 or 2 (massive hp gained)
Skunk2 ( i didnt' hear much about it)
oh well peace out now
</TD></TR></TABLE>riiight.
Ill just say this. With supporting mods I put down 190whp with my GSR with ITR cams. Its not all in your cams big guy, it what you want for power and where you want it. It also depends highly on your supporting mods (valvetrain, compression, etc). The bigger the cams, the more you must buy to compensate the gains....period. With ITR/CTR cams you can drop them in, tune them and see gains, there great midrange/top end cams for the price and there oem. If paired with the right setup and the right car owner that knows what they are doing then they can be very effective...I ran 14.1 all motor with my ITR cams last year before I went turbo and that was on a slick track night, a dry day and one more chance at the track I would have been sitting in the high 13's.
I know a ton of teg owners. I know more then a few that have much more aggressive cams then I had but I would have spanked them head to head if given the chance. Because my supporting mods and powerband was much more powerful.
Yes, ITR/CTR aren't that aggressive. But they can be very powerful if you know how to build a car and yes the other cams can give you more power, but they also run you more bills and need more compression/supporting mods to perform.
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Re: jdm itr cams vs. ctr cams (patdemps)
i agree with patdemps. check out my sig. built motor with just 10.5:1 c/r and ctr cams. and i've been on this set-up for almost 3 years. daily driven street car. good reliable performance.
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Re: jdm itr cams vs. ctr cams (greaseball)
My gsr ran a 14.3 on street tires with nothing done internally but ITR cams. Not a bad performance gain for the price. Sold the cams to my friend to put into a stock b16 hatch he was running mid 13s all day long.
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Re: jdm itr cams vs. ctr cams (yeegsr)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yeegsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they are ok if you're planing to use them in RS, LS, GS, or old Si engines</TD></TR></TABLE>
CTR cams in an RS/LS/GS? WTF?
CTR cams in an RS/LS/GS? WTF?
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Re: jdm itr cams vs. ctr cams (patdemps)
hmm wat are u guys talking about,, i was just saying, that the guy should reconsider about other cams
and of course prices are depending on how deep the pocket.
do you know wat does valvetrain and compression do?....to summary it,,,better valvetrain can help reduce frictions on the engine, low frictions = better benifits, but running honda engine under 300whp no need to replace any, although it goods to replace but doesn't neccessary, same as rods they're very strong, lighter rod can helps, but not neccessary, but good to have=cost
honda ENGINEs are made to be aggressive, it stocks internal compartment are almost bulletproof for those of you didnt know...change camshaft doesn't neccessary to replace others stuffs for NORMAL driving conditions
and of course, you answered yourself there, everything can be very powerful if you know how to build and tune a car, bills + tune/build = powers, you have to have both, duhhhh
and here dont be smart with me, if you're into tuning a car, im sure everyone in tuning world will consider about cost and reliable and powers, except for some idiots doesnt know shesh and talking out loud, so you dont have to remind me
reliability is depending on you (tune, build and use), if you got a good poweful reliable engine and you kept abusing or race it everyday, then you shouldn't talk about reliability, yeah you're a racer i know, hopefully you know wat does racer means
oh well last minute, when upgrading camshafts, adj cam gears, spoketed, intake, exhuast, then ajd FPR is a must, and if ECU possible then get it as soon as u can
dicussing to gain knowledge you guys shouldnt attack pplz like you should, peace geeks
and of course prices are depending on how deep the pocket.
do you know wat does valvetrain and compression do?....to summary it,,,better valvetrain can help reduce frictions on the engine, low frictions = better benifits, but running honda engine under 300whp no need to replace any, although it goods to replace but doesn't neccessary, same as rods they're very strong, lighter rod can helps, but not neccessary, but good to have=cost
honda ENGINEs are made to be aggressive, it stocks internal compartment are almost bulletproof for those of you didnt know...change camshaft doesn't neccessary to replace others stuffs for NORMAL driving conditions
and of course, you answered yourself there, everything can be very powerful if you know how to build and tune a car, bills + tune/build = powers, you have to have both, duhhhh
and here dont be smart with me, if you're into tuning a car, im sure everyone in tuning world will consider about cost and reliable and powers, except for some idiots doesnt know shesh and talking out loud, so you dont have to remind me
reliability is depending on you (tune, build and use), if you got a good poweful reliable engine and you kept abusing or race it everyday, then you shouldn't talk about reliability, yeah you're a racer i know, hopefully you know wat does racer means
oh well last minute, when upgrading camshafts, adj cam gears, spoketed, intake, exhuast, then ajd FPR is a must, and if ECU possible then get it as soon as u can
dicussing to gain knowledge you guys shouldnt attack pplz like you should, peace geeks
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Re: jdm itr cams vs. ctr cams (yeegsr)
Dude they were "attacking" you because you said this:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yeegsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BUT CTR or ITR both are sux...they are ok if you're planing to use them in RS, LS, GS, or old Si engines</TD></TR></TABLE>
Where I live we don't have those models and even I know you can't put VTEC cams in them.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yeegsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BUT CTR or ITR both are sux...they are ok if you're planing to use them in RS, LS, GS, or old Si engines</TD></TR></TABLE>
Where I live we don't have those models and even I know you can't put VTEC cams in them.
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Re: jdm itr cams vs. ctr cams (yeegsr)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yeegsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
you're they are most aggressive for honda, BUT CTR or ITR both are sux...they are ok if you're planing to use them in RS, LS, GS, or old Si engines...for GSR they dont worth the money that they performed, you might like the sound of those cams, i am up to the performance of HP's/TQ's. They are cheap though, i'll give you that, but why would you buy soem that is cheap but hardly get any performance, especially for GSR
to no2accord:
jdm itr cams vs. ctr cams (CTR and ITR 250 or 300 are normal price, you can find them almost everywhere, so, stay tune)
wat engine are you planing to use those CTR or ITR, if GSR, dont do it man...through my experience of reading hundred of DYNO results, CTR and ITR are lower class cam, they sux,
here are some brand name you should reconsider
Crower Cams stage2 (more torque and hp gained)
Crane Cams
Competition Cams
June Stage 3 or 2 (massive hp gained)
Skunk2 ( i didnt' hear much about it)
oh well peace out now
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wow all i have to say to that post is n000000b
you're they are most aggressive for honda, BUT CTR or ITR both are sux...they are ok if you're planing to use them in RS, LS, GS, or old Si engines...for GSR they dont worth the money that they performed, you might like the sound of those cams, i am up to the performance of HP's/TQ's. They are cheap though, i'll give you that, but why would you buy soem that is cheap but hardly get any performance, especially for GSR
to no2accord:
jdm itr cams vs. ctr cams (CTR and ITR 250 or 300 are normal price, you can find them almost everywhere, so, stay tune)
wat engine are you planing to use those CTR or ITR, if GSR, dont do it man...through my experience of reading hundred of DYNO results, CTR and ITR are lower class cam, they sux,
here are some brand name you should reconsider
Crower Cams stage2 (more torque and hp gained)
Crane Cams
Competition Cams
June Stage 3 or 2 (massive hp gained)
Skunk2 ( i didnt' hear much about it)
oh well peace out now
</TD></TR></TABLE>wow all i have to say to that post is n000000b
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Re: jdm itr cams vs. ctr cams (GSRBoi785)
alls i have to say is..............."if you dont have anything nice to say, dont say anything at all" and as for you yeegsr, you my boy, are a complete *** clown. but thanks for the idea of putting vtec cams in my ls, never thought of that, sounds like a good idea, wish i had thought of that, hmmmmmmm, sounds easy, im gonna jump on this right away! Whod of thunk it, alls i need is cams to make my motor vtec! WOOT!
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Re: jdm itr cams vs. ctr cams (GSRBoi785)
who said anything about being nice, this is honda-tech, this is like westside story, just without the tight pants and festive shirts
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Re: jdm itr cams vs. ctr cams (neo1z)
yea, an easy thread turned to **** by uninformed assclowns such as yeegsr, thanks for sticking around here and giving some helpful info, hows the s2000? loved your teg, should of kept both 
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Re: jdm itr cams vs. ctr cams (93TealSi)
Appriciated man - the s2k is great. Much better handling than my Integra, and is pretty much as fast. Just a little more grown up car.
Ill probably pick up another Integra someday - maybe an LS-Turbo or something.
Who knows.
Ill probably pick up another Integra someday - maybe an LS-Turbo or something.
Who knows.
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Re: jdm itr cams vs. ctr cams (spoonfed95)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoonfed95 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">CTR VS. ITR?......
Get the CTR cams, the intake cam is more aggressive then the ITR and the exhaust cams are the same.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ugh... you have to be more specific. 00-01 ITR cams are IDENTICAL<U></U> to CTR cams. earlier ITR cams are a little less aggressive. i think this was stated earlier
Get the CTR cams, the intake cam is more aggressive then the ITR and the exhaust cams are the same.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ugh... you have to be more specific. 00-01 ITR cams are IDENTICAL<U></U> to CTR cams. earlier ITR cams are a little less aggressive. i think this was stated earlier
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Re: jdm itr cams vs. ctr cams (no2accord)
peace, you can put CTR or ITR in LS, RS, GS,,,,but you will have to get a new engine the next day
CTR & ITR cams are sux...period....if you got no juice to drink,,,then drink water...water it good for you, but juices are fun lol...wtf am i talking about...it's a metaphor or an anology...
CTR & ITR cams are sux...period....if you got no juice to drink,,,then drink water...water it good for you, but juices are fun lol...wtf am i talking about...it's a metaphor or an anology...