b18c5 or Toda Race header?
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Re: (h23turbo)
It's not even close to the same thing, just cause it cost a $1000 doesn't mean it's gonna do more than ant other header. With a C5 block you will be getting so much more. Better pistons, rods, etc. not to mention going from a 1.6 to a 1.8.
Go with the C5 block
Go with the C5 block
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Re: b18c5 or Toda Race header? (h23turbo)
ummm the block would make a much bigger difference
the block would turn your 1.6 into a 1.8
also you are paying for the name toda for the header
There are a bunch of headers out there that are cheaper and just as good if not better than toda
-Brian
the block would turn your 1.6 into a 1.8
also you are paying for the name toda for the header
There are a bunch of headers out there that are cheaper and just as good if not better than toda
-Brian
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Re: (egb18turbo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egb18turbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">"no replacement for displacement"</TD></TR></TABLE>
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you will not gain 15-20 WHEEL hp with a toda header. Or any header for that matter. I'm sorry. Never. Not on that motor. Send me a dyno with a header alone making 15-20 hp to the wheels and ill send you 50$
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Re: (pburke23)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h23turbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">would these both give the same power to my b16a2?
a b18c5 short block or a toda race header
same gains correct?</TD></TR></TABLE>
You've gotta be kidding me. (No offense, honestly.)
a b18c5 short block or a toda race header
same gains correct?</TD></TR></TABLE>
You've gotta be kidding me. (No offense, honestly.)
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Re: b18c5 or Toda Race header? (vtec69)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtec69 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ummm the block would make a much bigger difference
the block would turn your 1.6 into a 1.8
also you are paying for the name toda for the header
There are a bunch of headers out there that are cheaper and just as good if not better than toda
-Brian</TD></TR></TABLE>
Depends on your definition of better. For example, Headertech might produce about the same numbers, but you wait 2-6 months for it and then it hangs really low.
the block would turn your 1.6 into a 1.8
also you are paying for the name toda for the header
There are a bunch of headers out there that are cheaper and just as good if not better than toda
-Brian</TD></TR></TABLE>
Depends on your definition of better. For example, Headertech might produce about the same numbers, but you wait 2-6 months for it and then it hangs really low.
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Re: b18c5 or Toda Race header? (sscguy)
there shouldnt even be a question, get the frickin' block, the toda will not get you 15-20 hp instantly, the block gives more displacement, meaning more tq. and hp throughout the entire powerband, not only now but more room for upgrade in the future, so GET THE BLOCK
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Re: (pburke23)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pburke23 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i cant even believe he got this many responses to such a dumb question.....</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: (pburke23)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pburke23 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i cant even believe he got this many responses to such a dumb question.....</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: (h23turbo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h23turbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a
It is a 1000$ header. gains are around 15 - 20 whp
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BULL CRAP!!!! a toda header will not give a b16 15-20 whp!!!!! I KNOW I SELL THEM!!!
It is a 1000$ header. gains are around 15 - 20 whp
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BULL CRAP!!!! a toda header will not give a b16 15-20 whp!!!!! I KNOW I SELL THEM!!!
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Re: (zad5)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zad5 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">15 20 on an itr motor but on a b16 hmm.. get the itr block for sure. and get the header after</TD></TR></TABLE>
even on a c5 engine you will not gain 15-20 from the header.....
10-12 yes....cause i have one on my C5 engine!!!
bone stock itr swap
toda header
aem intake
chipped p28
190 hp and 132 to the wheels!!!
even on a c5 engine you will not gain 15-20 from the header.....
10-12 yes....cause i have one on my C5 engine!!!
bone stock itr swap
toda header
aem intake
chipped p28
190 hp and 132 to the wheels!!!
