rotors cross drill vs. rotors cross drill and slotted...
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how long will the brake pads last for each? or how often you have to change it?
unless you are track racing, just stick with brembo blanks. Those rotors will cause uneven pad wear in some cases, but if you insist on being a ricer then go ahead and get them for your street car.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Legendaryyaj »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">unless you are track racing, just stick with brembo blanks. Those rotors will cause uneven pad wear in some cases, but if you insist on being a ricer then go ahead and get them for your street car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What he said
What he said
I dont no too much about brakes but i just no that drilled and slotted are deffinitely better for performance, but since it's slotted it wont last as long, but if i were to choose between drilled, slotted, or both, obviously i'd do both
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by livelifefast »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I dont no too much about brakes but i just no that drilled and slotted are deffinitely better for performance, but since it's slotted it wont last as long, but if i were to choose between drilled, slotted, or both, obviously i'd do both</TD></TR></TABLE>
drilled and slotted are better for performance eh? care to explain how?
drilled and slotted are better for performance eh? care to explain how?
they're not better for performance, slotted are, but slotted heat up too quick, so they wont last long. Drilled rotors provide for cooling of the breaks, but they dont have the same performance capabilities as slotted. I would say pick drilled and slotted because it's the best of both worlds, but then again, like i said, i dont no too much about brakes, just a few basics
There are a number of threads that discuss pros and cons about slotted, drilled, slotted/drilled. Some discuss cracked drilled rotors, slotted get hotter, etc. I researched as many threads as I could to help decide on my rotors and pads. At one point I wanted to upgrade to AEM big brake kit. I finally decided to go with Brembo slotted rotors and AEM pads. I'm not concerned about pad life as the cost of pads is not that much. I chose the slotted rotors over plain rotors because I like the way they look and I can say "yep, them's Brembos"
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the more surface area your pad can grip the better the braking force...slots reduce this space, drilled holes reduce this space too...plus both of them worsen the reliability of the rotor. The only real reason to get them for a car that doesnt participate in endurance races is because "they look cool"....lame.
the problem is you need to understand how the rotor works. the rotors use it's mass to dissipate heat to cool them down. when you drill or slot them you are taking away it's mass along with weakening a rotor that was not designed to be cut. so now when the rotor gets really hot it has a better chance of warping or cracking than a stock rotor.
also, i believes slotting was a design used to cure a problem with the brake pad material of like 20-30yrs ago which is not a problem today.
basically, slotted/drilling is all for the bling factor.
also, i believes slotting was a design used to cure a problem with the brake pad material of like 20-30yrs ago which is not a problem today.
basically, slotted/drilling is all for the bling factor.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by phoenixitc »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There are a number of threads that discuss pros and cons about slotted, drilled, slotted/drilled. Some discuss cracked drilled rotors, slotted get hotter, etc. I researched as many threads as I could to help decide on my rotors and pads. At one point I wanted to upgrade to AEM big brake kit. I finally decided to go with Brembo slotted rotors and AEM pads. I'm not concerned about pad life as the cost of pads is not that much. I chose the slotted rotors over plain rotors because I like the way they look and I can say "yep, them's Brembos"
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I hope you got the copper tainted Xdrilled and slotted Brembos and not the ones off ebay. The ones off ebay are not Legit.
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I hope you got the copper tainted Xdrilled and slotted Brembos and not the ones off ebay. The ones off ebay are not Legit.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Legendaryyaj »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">unless you are track racing, just stick with brembo blanks. Those rotors will cause uneven pad wear in some cases</TD></TR></TABLE>
uneven pad wear is not caused by brake rotors. it is either caused by a seized piston or binding/unlubricated slide pins and hardware.
uneven pad wear is not caused by brake rotors. it is either caused by a seized piston or binding/unlubricated slide pins and hardware.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=841593
^very interesting read
The thing is brembo blank is all you need, those drilled brembo cracks fairy easy.
alot of trackwhore in H-T uses brembo blank and even some NSX guy is running AUTOZONE blank(mainly because the free replacement warranty thing).
Get some good pad,DOT 4 Brake fluid and brembo blanks and call it a day
^very interesting read
The thing is brembo blank is all you need, those drilled brembo cracks fairy easy.
alot of trackwhore in H-T uses brembo blank and even some NSX guy is running AUTOZONE blank(mainly because the free replacement warranty thing).
Get some good pad,DOT 4 Brake fluid and brembo blanks and call it a day
there's absolutely no point in going drilled and slotted...yes they cool down quicker but remember they will also heat up much faster...therefor during a long highspeed braking what's that gonna do to you pads?
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I hope you got the copper tainted Xdrilled and slotted Brembos and not the ones off ebay. The ones off ebay are not Legit.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Got them from tirerack.com.
I hope you got the copper tainted Xdrilled and slotted Brembos and not the ones off ebay. The ones off ebay are not Legit.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Got them from tirerack.com.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Grodzman »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the more surface area your pad can grip the better the braking force...slots reduce this space, drilled holes reduce this space too...plus both of them worsen the reliability of the rotor. The only real reason to get them for a car that doesnt participate in endurance races is because "they look cool"....lame.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Lame is in the eye of the beholder... whatever
Lame is in the eye of the beholder... whatever
so if drilled/slotted rotors are soooo bad, why do Porcshe's, Lamborghini, Ferrari, and whatever other exotic sports cars manufacturers put them on there cars. They have to do some good if these manufacturers put big *** Brembo, Wilwood or whatever brand of brakes on them.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AVcTcEoCrd »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so if drilled/slotted rotors are soooo bad, why do Porcshe's, Lamborghini, Ferrari, and whatever other exotic sports cars manufacturers put them on there cars. They have to do some good if these manufacturers put big *** Brembo, Wilwood or whatever brand of brakes on them.</TD></TR></TABLE>
They arent bad for cars that require such stopping power. Putting this kind of stuff on a street car(like ours) is just dumb and wont do much good cuz our cars dont call for that kind of stopping power. We dont have 400+hp cars that need that kind of stopping power. Most of those cars that you listed are usually pushed hard and some are bought mainly for track purposes so they come already equipped with them. Plus magazines are gonng be testing every aspect of a car and one with weak brakes isnt gonna do.
They arent bad for cars that require such stopping power. Putting this kind of stuff on a street car(like ours) is just dumb and wont do much good cuz our cars dont call for that kind of stopping power. We dont have 400+hp cars that need that kind of stopping power. Most of those cars that you listed are usually pushed hard and some are bought mainly for track purposes so they come already equipped with them. Plus magazines are gonng be testing every aspect of a car and one with weak brakes isnt gonna do.
there is no difference whether we need to stop fast at 70 mph or a Porsche needs to stop at 150mph. It all gets used in the same way, Porsche brakes are bigger, thats all that is different. It all depends on what brake pads you use.u can get some Brembo or some AEM pads and they dont get as hot as some OEM ones. Yes, drilled/slotted rotors can warp and crack, but you need to use the right pads and make sure everything like the piston and caliper is in good working order. Everything happens for a reason.
It doesnt matter if an Accord has 145 hp or 500 hp. Power doesnt mean ****, if an Accord has to stop in a hurry, better safe than sorry. In any case, if any car has to hit the brakes hard it is goin to wear the pads down, no matter what brand or material they are. Drilled/Slotted rotors are an UPGRADE to the braking system. For the person who wants them, i'd do it, cuz for one, i have them on my car and i have not had a problem with them in about a year now. and ive had to go from 135 mph to 65 in a damn hurry and i got to 65 mph in a hurry and many other cases of having to "slam" on the brakes.
It doesnt matter if an Accord has 145 hp or 500 hp. Power doesnt mean ****, if an Accord has to stop in a hurry, better safe than sorry. In any case, if any car has to hit the brakes hard it is goin to wear the pads down, no matter what brand or material they are. Drilled/Slotted rotors are an UPGRADE to the braking system. For the person who wants them, i'd do it, cuz for one, i have them on my car and i have not had a problem with them in about a year now. and ive had to go from 135 mph to 65 in a damn hurry and i got to 65 mph in a hurry and many other cases of having to "slam" on the brakes.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AVcTcEoCrd »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so if drilled/slotted rotors are soooo bad, why do Porcshe's, Lamborghini, Ferrari, and whatever other exotic sports cars manufacturers put them on there cars. They have to do some good if these manufacturers put big *** Brembo, Wilwood or whatever brand of brakes on them.</TD></TR></TABLE>
porsche uses them because the holes are affective at allowing the water to escape when braking in the rain..it also allows them to save static weight..i believe the higher end porche's brakes weigh like 4 bags of salt or something..that's all..drilled rotors WILL NOT make a car stop faster than blanks(except in rain) given the rotor is the same size and same calipers and pads
it's simple physics, to stop a car you need friction, and to create friction you need a large surface area..drilled rotors take away the contact patch between the pad and rotor which reduces surface area thus reducing friction
drilled rotors will cool down faster because it has a larger overall surface area thanks to the drilled holes, air will be able to hit the rotor..however, because of the rotor's decreased mass, they will also heat up faster than blank rotors..so if you're trying to stop from 150-200 mph (which i doubt anyone here will be doing) the rotors will be heating up ALOT and if they heat up past the pad's temperature rating, the pads will begin to "fade" or "glaze" and you will lose alot of braking power
another downfall to drilled rotors is that by the name, the holes are drilled. this causes a loss in structural integraty and causes the rotors to be weaker..porsche and ferrari as well as other big name sports car companies have the holes casted during the production of the rotors so they are still as strong as blank ones
porsche uses them because the holes are affective at allowing the water to escape when braking in the rain..it also allows them to save static weight..i believe the higher end porche's brakes weigh like 4 bags of salt or something..that's all..drilled rotors WILL NOT make a car stop faster than blanks(except in rain) given the rotor is the same size and same calipers and pads
it's simple physics, to stop a car you need friction, and to create friction you need a large surface area..drilled rotors take away the contact patch between the pad and rotor which reduces surface area thus reducing friction
drilled rotors will cool down faster because it has a larger overall surface area thanks to the drilled holes, air will be able to hit the rotor..however, because of the rotor's decreased mass, they will also heat up faster than blank rotors..so if you're trying to stop from 150-200 mph (which i doubt anyone here will be doing) the rotors will be heating up ALOT and if they heat up past the pad's temperature rating, the pads will begin to "fade" or "glaze" and you will lose alot of braking power
another downfall to drilled rotors is that by the name, the holes are drilled. this causes a loss in structural integraty and causes the rotors to be weaker..porsche and ferrari as well as other big name sports car companies have the holes casted during the production of the rotors so they are still as strong as blank ones


