Ok.. jesus i feel stupid asking this. I don't have a helms, disassembling an engine before it goes to the shop to save on some cash.. and adding my oil line. i removed all the nuts... its on there solid.. what holds the pan on ?

thanks guys.

d16y7 btw.

 

There's like 374582395804 bolts. I have a Y8, and I seriously thought it was never going to come off either. Keep working at it.

 

Be sure nothing is blocking it from coming off *all bolts & nuts removed*. The b-series has lower support brackets that mount to the back side of the tranny from the bottom of the block. Gently..gently pry around the pan to break the seal of the oil pan gasket. HTH.

 

is it just the bolts going around it.. cuase i have ALL them off... i know theres like 30 of the *******.. any on the block itself >?

 

k.. just came off.. wow that ****** was on there good.. tooka flat head and a breaker bar around 6 times..

 

You removed the girdle that bolts to the tranny and block right?

*edit* just saw you got it off. Yeah, those ******* can be stuck on there sometimes.

 

Just make sure you didn't fudge up the lip of your pan guy.

 

yea i know i took it in little bits, big old flat head.

 

now the girdle part, with the 8 studs.. i removed thoose and the oil collector.. what else holds that in ?.. btw engine goes to the shop friday i'll have some pics of this new build.. going to be an intresting y7

 

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Nothing, it fits pretty tight though. Use a rubber mallot or something similar and tap it from the front and back to kind of rock it out.

 

Isn't the girdle doweled?

 

buy a helms

 

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thanks guys.

d16y7 btw.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just the gasket now. It may take some fanangling. When I first removed my oil pan to tap it, I had to jiggle it around abit. Rubber mallet, as someone mentioned will work too.

 

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Where is it possible to buy a helms? Thanks

 

I believe its either http://www.helms.com or http://www.helmsmanual.com

 

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This one isn't correct.

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This one works.

http://www.HelmInc.com works as well.

They are both the same site though.

 

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yes they are...try tapping it with a rubber mallot a few times. then wrap a pry bar with cloth and try prying at it, but very carefully, as it doesnt take much to mess up aluminum blocks.

 

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Good. The hard part is re-installing it with no leaks.

 

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Good. The hard part is re-installing it with no leaks. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yep, had to do mine 3 times to get no leaks the first time I did an oil pan gasket.

 

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Yep, had to do mine 3 times to get no leaks the first time I did an oil pan gasket.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I had to do mine twice. Second time I used a gasket and that gasket maker stuff.

 

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I installed mine for the first time and it leaks..

I heard that if you torque it too much it will leak and if you dont torque it well it will eak as well..So its kind of like a happy medium tightening...

How can i do this right?
Is there any specific torque amount needed?

BTW: I added Honda bond too

 

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Is there any specific torque amount needed?
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The torque spec for the oil pan bolts/nuts is 9 ft/lbs. The manual also gives a torque sequence for those bolts/nuts. It looks like this.



You also need to put liquid gasket at the corners of the half circles in the gasket.

Modified by TouringAccord at 2:15 PM 10/4/2004


Modified by TouringAccord at 2:18 PM 10/4/2004

 

Use the torque spec listed above. Make sure you have a clean surface on the block and the oil pan. I found that 9 ft*lb was too much for my gasket...I used something more like 5 ft*lb and haven't had a problem.

 

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Yeah, thats what I thought when I did the one on my Accord. It seemed like it was too tight but I went with it anyway because thats what the manual said and I didn't have any problems. I think the next one I do though, I'll back off a little.

 

Thanks man..I think ill re do the oil pan this next week end..
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You also need to put liquid gasket at the corners of the half circles in the gasket.

Modified by TouringAccord at 2:15 PM 10/4/2004


Modified by TouringAccord at 2:18 PM 10/4/2004</TD></TR></TABLE>

Bolt #14 on my oil pan seems like its not screwed all the way in but its hard..Thats where is leaking.