I am starting to save up some good money and I am pretty close to having to make my decesion, I just thought Id ask what you guys think I should do.
Turbo My F23a1, or get an H22 and build it up a little(for turbo later ), or 3.2TL-s and just drop it in as is.

 

I take it you have a 6th gen with the f23....if your car is payed for or close to IMO I would get the tl and drop it with some mild bolt ons

 

Go either h22 or turbo the f don't worry about putting a j32 in there cause it would not be worth it.

 

The only reason I am thinking about the j32 is because of the comptech superchager kit for it, 280whp sounds pretty good for not to much work.

 

for the cash flow involved in the j32 swap and supercharger... you could make the same power for less $ turbocharging the f23.

 

You think so?
I dont even know how much all that would cost me, plus the supercharger wouldnt happen fo a while, Basically I just need to decide on either wich motor to buy or just to Turbo, I am kinda leaning towards the Turbo or H22, The J32 would be cool, But in the long run I dont think that Id be as happy. You can only do so much with them.

 

I guess it would depend on your goals, how much you drive, and what kind of driving you do?

 

Id be happy with running low 14s and still have a daily driver, I dont want to go to crazy on this.

 

I misread the question I thought you were contemplating FI your current F23 or swapping h22 or getting a 3.2tl-s (car)

In that case, IMO if you turbo your f23 you will obviously max out after a certain point to to possible potential of the motor/parts etc.

The h22 would be nice and built for a snail would be a monster.

The tl motor w/ supercharger will cost a lot of money...and I would imagine fabrication.

My choice would be h22-t

 

See the thing is I would do just the H22 without the turbo for atleast a year, just until I can get up enough money to turbo it, I couldnt afford turbo and H22 right now, It would have to be one or the other, F23 turbo, or H22 stock(a few bolt ons nothing huge)

 

IMHO opinion if you got the tl type S, Leave it stock power wise. Just go for looks, the car cant handle power. You're gonna be droppin money fixin the autotragic tranny all the time. As for the Comptech S/C, you really wanna drop 6g's on that thing and get only 40 horses??????? Its a ripoff even with the high hp pulley. Just Boost the f23 and keep it at that.

 

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In that case, IMO if you turbo your f23 you will obviously max out after a certain point to to possible potential of the motor/parts etc.

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logically you will max out any motor and its parts at some point or another... were that point be is the true question. I highly doubt the f22/f23 (properly tuned) will go down without some very suprisingly good numbers... they are tanks despite popular belief.

the h22 is not stronger but it does has more power/ potential to start with... they are stout but the sleeves/ ringlands/ headgaskets seem to go quickly under boost.

for the money I liked the boost and it has worked out well so far... would have went the route of a h22 swap and boost if I had extra 2 grand and more down time.

 

H22 yeah def H22

You just cant beat raw power, like my f22

 

no, turbo the f23. well tuned at 11 or 12 you will hit low 14's if you can drive. turbo the f23. the h would be good with a small setup, if you have the money. dont even waste your time with the 3.2l. 280 hp can is not worth that, 14 psi on your f should give you close to that

 

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Exactly, but IMO the f22 versus the h22 (no frankenstein motors) built the h22 should be able to put out better numbers. The f22/23 is from what I hear one hell of an engine and would obviously put up a good fight .

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the h22 is not stronger but it does has more power/ potential to start with... they are stout but the sleeves/ ringlands/ headgaskets seem to go quickly under boost.

for the money I liked the boost and it has worked out well so far... would have went the route of a h22 swap and boost if I had extra 2 grand and more down time.
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Agreed

 

Yah I think you guys are right, I think I am gonna keep the F23 and just boost it, And then when it blows, I'll just re-build it stronger boost it some more

 

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like all the first time turbo/n20 user, which never consider building the motor before something bad happens.

keep it low

 

it doesnt really matter cuz f blocks are cheap and plentiful. have fun but use your brain

 

im with the people who say turbo the F... if you get the H22 it will make less power than the turbo f23, and if you plan on turboing that, you might also want to look into new sleeves and whatnot... if youre looking for low14's id say turbo the f and do a couple of other things

 

what i don't understand is why don't you just build it up right the first time and maybe save yourself some money? i mean...if the doctor tells you have clogged arteries...you don't say "well ill have a heart attack first then have the operation!"...dunno if that even makes sense, but damnit i think so! at least do engine/fuel management right the first time =/

 

Your right, doing all the internals and what not first would be a smart Idea, but the problem is that that **** costs alot of money too! Fuel/engine manegement I will do at first just so that I can make some more power and keep it a bit safer, But really, this is gonna be a pretty long project, at first I'd prbably only be running about 4-5psi just to keep it safe, But I know the longer I have it the faster I will want to make it, and then by the end I'll get carried away and have it at 14-15psi, And then BOOM! Then come the internals

 

Yeah, I'm building my H22 (pistons, rods, sleeved block, clutch, flywheel ect.. ) and it isn't cheap. With costs just under 5k (and the motor not going in for another 2 weeks) I haven't even looked at a turbo. So i'd say its probably cheaper to just go turbo on your F

 

Turbo the F23A1 when it blows throw a H22 in and buy a new manifold and put the turbo on the H22!

Thats my plan! (cant run lots of boost on H22 without lots of internal work though)

 

Then be like me, run 6 lbs of boost when you get your turbo because you understand that a stock setup has its limits...

 

or you could do the tl motor with a legend 5 sp tranny....or even the new 6 speed...have a low 14sec car with just that...then do something a little different from every one else and run turbo or n20 on that motor and i bet you will have low 13s.....

and turboing that motor has been done....well the newer accord v6 6sp motor but it is pretty much the same