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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 10:13 PM
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Default Royal Purple Synchromax Transmission Fluid any good? what fluid do you run?

I have a sohc cable tranny in my 89 hatch. I just rebuilt it and i drive the car very hard (autox built). Im running pennsoil 10w30 in it now but was considering Royal Purple Synchromax anyone have any input or advice?
what tranny fluid do you all run? tia

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Old Jul 10, 2004 | 06:08 AM
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Old Jul 10, 2004 | 06:09 AM
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I've heard good things about GM synchromesh

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Old Jul 10, 2004 | 02:38 PM
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I've used BG Synchroshift and GM Synchromesh. Love 'em both, the latter seems to help the synchros engage a little better.
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Old Jul 10, 2004 | 11:01 PM
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I haven't heard ANYTHING about RP tranny fluid...but I have heard lots about Redline MTL...and nothing but good about MTL
I'd stick with tried & true
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Old Jul 11, 2004 | 06:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PupaScoopa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've used BG Synchroshift and GM Synchromesh. Love 'em both, the latter seems to help the synchros engage a little better.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LX4CYL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've heard good things about GM synchromesh

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&lt;soapbox&gt;

The Honda MTF is crap for track use, IMHO. It breaks down easily and shears, and it comes out about half as thin as it goes in - its cheap 10w30 motor oil with a few anti-wear additives.

The pennzoil/synchromesh is the same stuff, and it is thinner than Honda MTF. I dont know if its any better at breaking down under heavy use, but its still too damn thin for even street use, IMHO.

I am using Motul Gear300 - I love it, 4 events on the fluid and it still shifts butter smooth, better than the Honda stuff ever did. Its a 75w90 oil, full synthetic (OE honda is 75w80). Any synthetic 75w90 should be fine for track use - Redline, Neo, Motul, etc.

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Old Jul 11, 2004 | 06:51 PM
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Default Re: Royal Purple Synchromax Transmission Fluid any good? what fluid do you run? (.RJ)

Honda MTF is actually a non-detergent 5w-30 motor oil with additional additives....for information purposes.

At the least, run Honda MTF. Has served me and a lot of people I know very well....road racing, autocross, and daily driving.

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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 12:25 AM
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honda mtf. never had a grind. car is autox only. changed very frequently. you could fry chicken nuggets in it right out of the car.

i also thought that the honda mtf was 5w-30 with adds.
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 05:12 AM
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Honda recently revised their MTF. Ive used it for track days, autox and daily duty with no problems. The new formula did help with the high rpm 4th gear grind I was getting but it didnt solve it completely. Ive used both older and newer fluid and IMHO the newer stuff did a better job with the grinding prob. My .02.

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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 05:29 AM
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I have run Honda MTF in my H4 cars trans for the last 2 years. I change it once a year as a precaution. I have no problems with my trans, shifts very smooth!!!

side note - this trans was rebuilt (new bearings/syncros) and has a quiaf LSD in it. I have only run MTF in it.
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 07:20 AM
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Default Re: Royal Purple Synchromax Transmission Fluid any good? what fluid do you run? (BrianZ)

So is 5w30 recommended for most transmissions? I have an Integra GSR LSD transmission in my Si.
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 09:33 AM
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Default Re: Royal Purple Synchromax Transmission Fluid any good? what fluid do you run? (spun Vtec)

Check out this other thread as well...

Honda-Tech.com » Road Racing/Autocross » Gearbox Oil for syncromesh gears + clutch plate LSD

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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 01:12 PM
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Default Re: Royal Purple Synchromax Transmission Fluid any good? what fluid do you run? (KIWI)

I run ROyal Purple trans fluid, and motor oil. When I first started using it I was still driving the car on the street. I'm not sure what was in it before, if anyone knows what OPM puts back in when they swap a motor (previous owner.) Anyway, there was a hill by my house that I could only take about half-way up in 5th. After the Royal Purple I could not only hold 5th the whole way up but I could accelerate. Call me a liar if you want but that what happened.
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Old Nov 26, 2007 | 10:10 PM
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Default Re: Royal Purple Synchromax Transmission Fluid any good? what fluid do you run? (ewaugh)

did you use synchromax or motor oil? thanks. because the RP catalog says use 10w30 for honda trans so i'm a bit confused now
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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 04:25 AM
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honda mtf
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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 06:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by speedworksengineering &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">did you use synchromax or motor oil? thanks. because the RP catalog says use 10w30 for honda trans so i'm a bit confused now</TD></TR></TABLE>

I am running RP engine oil in the gearbox. No problems. But I am on a rebuilt gearbox w/ Quaife so I didn't have any grinds to begin with.
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 10:28 AM
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I've had the most success with Honda Transmissions using Amsoil's 5w30 MTF.

I'd get 2 events on the OE fluid before I couldn't downshift back into first at high RPMs, and 7 events on the Amsoil fluid.
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 11:04 AM
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I'm pretty much a ***** for Amsoil motor oil. Haven't tried their other products yet though.
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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Dude, if you like the motor oil, you will LOVE the trans fluid. Every one of our Honda guys that has made the switch from ANY fluid has been more than happy.
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Old Nov 29, 2007 | 01:18 PM
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honda mtf changed once a year. no issues. trans was rebuilt with 4.7 and lsd at least 4 years ago and has been good to go since.
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 08:44 AM
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so its pretty half and half on what people have luck with. what about http://www.evasivemotorsports....ENEOS
anyone ever tried?
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try torco oil ive herd many good things bout tht company
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Old Nov 30, 2007 | 11:13 PM
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i use half Honda MTF and half Pennzoil synchromesh...not sure the reaosn behind the mixing though
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Old Dec 1, 2007 | 11:46 AM
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I could use Honda MTF for free if I wanted, but don't. I use Motul Gear 300, like .rj, it works amazing in both the racecar (b series LSD tranny) and in my Mazda3. It is also better than Redline MTL or MT-90 IMHO.
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