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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 02:59 PM
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Well i have a gsr so finding an alarm with autostart feature has been a challange seeing our transmitions are manual. To my knowledge compustar is the only company who's brains support manual transmitions. I know the DEI alarms don't support this which all my local installers carry. So when i asked them about it they said for legal reason they won't touch anything that uses autostart on manuals. I found a 2WSS unit with a bunch of goodies on ebay for around $250. Also found a authorized installer a few cities away that will do install for 175-200(ouch tempted to teach myself).

I am really just tryin to get some feedback from compustar owners to hear how they like or dislike there alarm system. Also if there are any compustar installers that are h-t members please make urself known cause i might have a question for you. Thanks in advance for the input....
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 07:42 PM
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I install Compustar alarms/remote starts, and the store I work for, sales them.
What do you need to know, my advice on install, is to get a pro to do it.
Compustars alarm/remote start for manual trans. are great, failsafe.

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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 06:04 AM
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just out of curiosity, does it have a kill switch that disables the remote start if the car is in gear?
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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 06:49 AM
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You have to put unit in ready mode to be able to start it, this means you turn off ign. car is still running ,you get out of car,close door, ign. shuts off,and as you got out of car with it running it can't be in gear, and as long as you don't open a door it will remotely start, and if a door is opend it will not start.

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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 07:06 AM
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damn sounds nice, i was wondering how it would prevent starting in gear. maybe if they come down in price some i will get one
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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 07:16 AM
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I have this same alarm, but haven't installed it yet. I bought it from ebay, probably from the same guy you are looking at. Kikoz I bilieve is his name. Very responsive guy, great to buy from!

It has the manual remote start and you have to leave your car in reservation mode in order it to autostart. To get into reservation mode you have to leave your car in neutral with the hand brake pulled. Then you turn off the ignition and the car continues to run for 2 minutes and then it shuts off. I guess you have to get out of the car in those 2 minutes. If you open the door after you get out, it will cancel the reservation mode and you will have to manually start your car and repeat the process. I don't really know how it will work for me once I install it, but right now it seems to me a little annoying...going through all this and having your car run for 2 minutes.
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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 07:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Odessa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have this same alarm, but haven't installed it yet. I bought it from ebay, probably from the same guy you are looking at. Kikoz I bilieve is his name. Very responsive guy, great to buy from!

It has the manual remote start and you have to leave your car in reservation mode in order it to autostart. To get into reservation mode you have to leave your car in neutral with the hand brake pulled. Then you turn off the ignition and the car continues to run for 2 minutes and then it shuts off. I guess you have to get out of the car in those 2 minutes. If you open the door after you get out, it will cancel the reservation mode and you will have to manually start your car and repeat the process. I don't really know how it will work for me once I install it, but right now it seems to me a little annoying...going through all this and having your car run for 2 minutes.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you can just shut it off with the remote after you are out of the car 94
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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 08:06 AM
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Well, if this is true then it's not bad then.

But I still find the door opening thing annoying. You might want to get some stuff out of your car and you will lose the reservation mode
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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 08:18 AM
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Well you can fix that to, get an auto, or just put in a auto remote start in your car, but I wonder what is more annoying , the reservation mode or the day you remote start your car in gear and it runs into the car parked in front of you and your insurance won't pay because there annoyed. 94
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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 08:29 AM
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Getting an auto is just evil And auto remote won't work for manual. I just don't get why would they make the door opening cancel the reservation mode? What compustar has against door opening?
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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 07:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Odessa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Getting an auto is just evil And auto remote won't work for manual. I just don't get why would they make the door opening cancel the reservation mode? What compustar has against door opening?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Its got nothing to do with opening door, its got to do with you ,or your wife/ GF/brother/sister/mom&pop, or any one else that has to get something from your car, and put it into gear When you get out of the car,[with it running] the brain "sees" you get out, door opens, door closes, can't be in gear [still running],you then turn it off with remote, or last door close, or turbo timer, or run time. how do you think the brain knows that for sure,no how,cant be,isn't going to happen, that someone [you] hasen't ,by mistake ,put it in gear, its failsafe ,it don't care, it sees a door open, and just asumes we as humans will **** up ,and turns off.

And yes Odessa , a remote start made for a auto trans. will work in a standard,
just like you can put a remote start for a standard into a auto.

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Old Jul 9, 2004 | 08:26 PM
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Yeah, I get what you're saying...but they should find another way of making sure the car isn't in gear. And what about the Clifford Avantguard 5? Does it work the same for autostart?

You sure the auto remote start works on manuals? Howcome they say it doesn't?
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Old Jul 10, 2004 | 07:51 AM
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Yes there are other ways , but not as failsafe, and because of this, most remote starts are getting rid of photo cells and shift link switchs and opting for the door trigger.

And yes I am sure autos will will work on manuals, they just don't have a failsafe override.

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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 03:42 PM
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i have the compustar on my 93 teg and i love it

only thing i didint like is my friend who isntalled it couldnt leave out the turbo timer install part so i lost my hks turbo timmer, but hey least now i can sell it and make some cash

rite now im not getting the best distance on my pager alarm but it still does the job for now, if im at the bar/home/work/ ect.. i can only go so far in the mall before it cuts out but hey its better then nothing. when my buddy gets back hes going to try adjusting it.

go with computsar u wont regret it.
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 03:50 PM
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Cav how do u like the turbo timer on the compustar? Is there anything it really lacks that the HKS or others prevailed in?

Also since our cars by default won't start if the clutch isn't engaged how do you bypass that? I see that compustar has features to make sure you don't autostart in gear but how exactly do u make ur teg bypass the clutch safety? Cut a safety wire?

Thanks for all the input guys you have answered all my questions so far
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 06:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redeyz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cav how do u like the turbo timer on the compustar? Is there anything it really lacks that the HKS or others prevailed in?

Also since our cars by default won't start if the clutch isn't engaged how do you bypass that? I see that compustar has features to make sure you don't autostart in gear but how exactly do u make ur teg bypass the clutch safety? Cut a safety wire?

Thanks for all the input guys you have answered all my questions so far</TD></TR></TABLE> you install a relay that closes the clutch override switch, useing the on when running output of the compustar, so it will still work when you start " manualy" 94
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 08:24 PM
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On the wiring diagram for this alarm, it says besides some of the wire descriptions "250mA". What does it mean and is it important to the installer? And I've being reading some info on alarm installs and it said you will probably need to use relays or diodes for certain things...or else if you connect wires directly it won't work or damage something in the system. Is it really true? By what rule I should go to know where I need a relay (or anything else) in place?
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 06:11 AM
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250mA or 1/4 amp enough to trip 1 or 2 relays and not a lot more, doorlocks,lights,trunk release,all take a lot more power to run 5 to 10 amps, and if your rev.pol. you need a relay and 1/4 amp is all you need to trip the relay, if all the relays were to come in the alarms/ starters, you would need a 8ga power wire just for the EXT outputs, and the unit would be twice as big.
A diode is a gate that will let only pos. volts through it one way, and neg. volts the other way, used to isolate more then one input into one input, like say door trigger, on some cars you have to wire the driver and pass. door pins into the alarm, if you don't use diodes, you will get all the door chimes on pass.side as you get on the drivers side.

hope this helps. 94
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 10:34 AM
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Damn fcm sounds like you really know your ****. I wish you were close to Alabama i would be happy to pay you for install.
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 05:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redeyz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Damn fcm sounds like you really know your ****. I wish you were close to Alabama i would be happy to pay you for install.</TD></TR></TABLE>Well thanks redeyz ,but I'm as far away from Alabama as I can be and still be warm Kelowna B.C. Canada 94
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 07:01 PM
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i have a compustar for sale..everything is new except for the remote. but remote still great shape.
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 08:26 AM
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so with the clutch relay being *canceled?* can you start the car with the key without pushing in the clutch? I used to have a hyundai (I know!) and it could be started without pushing in the clutch, and if it was in gear it would spring forward like a cat pouncing on a mouse. It was pretty cool, cuz it was a hyundai, but on a nice car, wouldn't the clutch sustain a lot of wear? I know it's easy to just say "don't leave it in gear", but, humans mess up.
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 04:12 PM
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(davids_81) -- i take it u posted w/o reading any of the previous threads...

(JDMTopFuel) -- which compustar model is it and how much u askin?
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Old Jul 22, 2004 | 04:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by davids_81 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so with the clutch relay being *canceled?* can you start the car with the key without pushing in the clutch? I used to have a hyundai (I know!) and it could be started without pushing in the clutch, and if it was in gear it would spring forward like a cat pouncing on a mouse. It was pretty cool, cuz it was a hyundai, but on a nice car, wouldn't the clutch sustain a lot of wear? I know it's easy to just say "don't leave it in gear", but, humans mess up. </TD></TR></TABLE>

No, clutch override relay is only on when starting car with remote. 94
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redeyz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cav how do u like the turbo timer on the compustar? Is there anything it really lacks that the HKS or others prevailed in?

Also since our cars by default won't start if the clutch isn't engaged how do you bypass that? I see that compustar has features to make sure you don't autostart in gear but how exactly do u make ur teg bypass the clutch safety? Cut a safety wire?

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well i liked the look of the hks turbo timer and the fact i could have it 30 seconds all the way to 10 min. for those long distance drives. but im still happy with the copustar turbo timer


the clutch question im not to sure on my buddy did that so i dunno, i know u gotta wire it up the the tach wire and a few other things.

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