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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 05:40 AM
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Default How do I know if the clutch is going?

When I granny shift its fine but if I shift at higher rpms quick its like it stays at where I shifted gears for like 5 seconds. Then the rpms slowly come down and the car starts accelerating again. I dont know if the clutch is slipping or needs adjustment? I can never chirp gears either. Normal driving its fine but when I get on it, sounds like its not grabbing. Guy just had a new clutch installed not too long ago. I got this car as a trade.

Also when I let off the clutch it doesnt grab till like I almost completly let off the clutch pedal. Just wanted to know if the car already needed a new clutch or if it was an adjustment thing.
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 06:26 AM
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Default Re: How do I know if the clutch is going? (Grease Monkey)

No adjustment needed on the clutch. Usually a clutch will last you quite a good while, but depending on the driving, it can die fast.

An preliminary check to see if your clutch is going is simply test driving the car. Now depending on the mileage of course, if your clutch is slipping on load, then that would indicate a dying clutch.

Further, when you are stopped, let go of the clutch real fast. Does it grip real hard or not. If not, then your clutch is going. It is really that simple.

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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 06:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by filthy_shovel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No adjustment needed on the clutch. Usually a clutch will last you quite a good while, but depending on the driving, it can die fast.

An preliminary check to see if your clutch is going is simply test driving the car. Now depending on the mileage of course, if your clutch is slipping on load, then that would indicate a dying clutch.

Further, when you are stopped, let go of the clutch real fast. Does it grip real hard or not. If not, then your clutch is going. It is really that simple.

fs</TD></TR></TABLE>

The clutch only slips when I shift fast at high rpm. When I drive normally its fine. All my other cars never had this problem as far as chirping gears. If I let go of the clutch real fast it does grip hard. Again the previous owner just changed the clutch like less than a year ago. Its just if I attempt to chirp gears or shift fast it just stays at the rpm for like 5 sec before making its way down.
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 07:23 AM
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Any idea what kind of clutch it is?

The phenomena you are describing could be simple clutch slip, or it could be something known as "stay out."

Stay-out is a phenomenon that occurs at high RPM only. Essentially what happens is the clutch diaphragm spring fingers have enough centrifugal load at high RPM to keep the clutch from re-clamping. Clutches such as Centerforce, which have weights on the fingers, are particularly susceptible to this.

Try doing a quick full-throttle shift at 3000 RPM and see if it still happens. If it does, it's likely slip. If not, then it might be stay-out. Problem is, there's no fix for stay out other than to replace the clutch with one designed properly!
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 07:27 AM
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exedy stage 1 i believe thats a oem replacement?
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 07:35 AM
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Hrmm... Well, that should not be a problem unless the fingers are bent, or the wrong Exedy clutch was installed... But, do the test anyway and see what happens.
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 07:39 AM
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Default Re: How do I know if the clutch is going? (allenp)

aiite I'll try it out. I gotta step out anyway. I guess I'll be back in like an hour.
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 11:23 AM
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also try this....
from a complete stop...shift to 4th gear and try to take off like you would if you are on first gear.

if your engine stalls, it's not slipping....but if you are able to take off using fourth gear with no problem, your clutch is slipping.

i hope it helps...
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 11:26 AM
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Shifted normally, it only feels like it slips at like 6000 rpm when I shift quick. If I shift normally its ok.

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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 11:53 AM
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I dunno man, sounds like stay-out!

Not certain why it would happen, unless it's the incorrect clutch... Or the diaphragm spring is somehow whacked...

There is one other thing it could be - your release system might be sticking slightly, causing it to return slowly.

Here's another test: Sitting idling in neutral, depress the clutch to the floor, and sidestep the pedal. Does it snap back up? Now rev the engine to 6000, and do the same thing (still in neutral!) - does it return slowly? If it's slow both times, then you might need to lubricate/replace your master and/or slave cylinder. If it's quick at idle but slow at high RPM, then it's probably stayout...
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 12:04 PM
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Default Re: How do I know if the clutch is going? (allenp)

Well according to his sig. it's a '91 Integra.. so that wouldn't be the problem since it's a cable tranny.
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Old Jul 8, 2004 | 01:13 PM
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adjust your clutch cable, turn it counter clockwise to have it grab lower. if the clutch is fairly new but broken in, you're supposed to re-adjust it at 10k miles. plus the previous owner probably has a different preferance to release point than you do. i have mine release near the top also.
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 08:41 AM
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still having the same problem. I went up hill today and before i went up i threw it into 3rd gear. Stepped on it all the way while going up and no slip. Only when I drive and shift fast and hard at a high rpm it will slip...

Is there something that needs to be adjusted? Maybe the clutch cable? I have no idea....
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 10:06 AM
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ttt
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 10:23 AM
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Default Re: How do I know if the clutch is going? (Grease Monkey)

As I said before:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allenp &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here's another test: Sitting idling in neutral, depress the clutch to the floor, and sidestep the pedal. Does it snap back up? Now rev the engine to 6000, and do the same thing (still in neutral!) - does it return slowly? If it's slow both times, then you might need to lubricate/replace your master and/or slave cylinder. If it's quick at idle but slow at high RPM, then it's probably stayout...</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 10:33 AM
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Default Re: How do I know if the clutch is going? (allenp)

I have a cable tranny.
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 10:37 AM
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Default Re: How do I know if the clutch is going? (Grease Monkey)

Doesn't matter. It will still determine whether you have stay-out issues.

High-RPM + Slow return = stay-out.

BTW, I will take this opportunity to make my objection to the terms "cable tranny" and "hydro tranny." The transmission is not what is cable or hydraulically actuated, it's the clutch. It should be "cable clutch" or "hydro clutch."

Thank you.
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