B18c6 powered EE8 (EDM EF8)
I recently swapped the good ol' B16 for an Integra R engine. A friend stumbled on one at the local wrecker. The gut obviously didn't know what it was since he let it go for the sum you would normally buy an hi-mileage B16 for. The engine had run a mere 12 Kmls, normally I never trust these claims but after I removed the tranny I almost cried, this engine is like brandnew! There wasn't even dust in the tranny housing.. This car was taken care of by a loving owner. I did have to drive 1600 miles for it in a slow stinking van but was worth it!
Since my swap was based on the SiR, the motor mounts are thesame. The only problem is the hydro tranny. Since there are no hydro tranny swap mounts availalble I decided to trade my S80 against a rebuilt Y2 with new bearings, synchro's and custom differentials and brandnew ITR LSD (note Y2 = cable , Y21 = hydro). Sadly I heared a rumour about JUN EF8 hydro tranny mounts but this has never been verified.
So the whole swap was basicly a drop in!
Fuel management: I swapped my distributor and fuel rail (teste and cleaned B16 injectors), since the ITR injectors have thesame flow rate as the B16 but work under higher pressure I didn't need to cut and solder the plugs. The fewer the better and no change of any electrical malfunction.. I do not like the thought!
Fuel
The ECU is the stock PW0/PR3 but I chipped it with a 9500 rev limit and improved fuel map. Timing isn't set yet and fuel management is too rich. Soon I will take it to a local tuner and have it perfected with the use of the V-AFC. First I need to upgrade the exhaust system since my 2" system is restricting flow for sure.
I ran 14.3 on 16's with streettires, that can be much improved..
Handling is much better with the LSD, anything over 150ps in a fwd should have it!
Modifications:
Suspension:
-Stillauto SR500 16x7(ET45)
-195/45/VR16 toyo Proxes T1s
-Energy suspension urethane bushings
-SPAX RSX Coil Suspension Kit, rebound 14-way adjustable
-Sparco adjustable upper front strut bar
-Sparco adjustable upper rear strut bar
-DW lower front tie bar
-Sparco adjustable lower rear tie bar
-Camber kit (front)
-ITR 22mm (7/8\") swaybar
-A support frames (fender re-enforcement)
Brakes:
-Powerslot rotors front 282mm (redrill 4x100)
-Legend 3.2L dual piston brake calipers front
-Ferodo DS2500 brake pads front
-ITR single piston brake caliper rear
-Ferodo DS2500 brake pads rear
-SMC stainless steel brake lines
-DOT 5.1 Comma brake fluid
Performance:
-B18c6 12K mls :D
-Y2 bak / custom differential / ITR LSD
-ECU with reprogrammed ROM: rich fuel map+9.5K limit
-FPR +gauge
-Tenzo Cold Air Intake + KN kone filter
-Peak performance 4-1 header / 3" flange
-Custom cat replacement
-Custom 2,25 / 2,5" in progress
-Type R pressure plate
-TCC 4.2kg CNC flywheel
-Apexi VTEC air fuel convertor
Miscelanious:
-Battery relocation
-Group N FIA approved bolted 6 point rollcage
-Sparco Road biucketseats
-Sabelt 3-point harness
-ITR steering wheel
-OMP pedal set
-Apexi RSM
-Oil pressure gauge
-Oil temp. gauge
-A/F gauge




Since my swap was based on the SiR, the motor mounts are thesame. The only problem is the hydro tranny. Since there are no hydro tranny swap mounts availalble I decided to trade my S80 against a rebuilt Y2 with new bearings, synchro's and custom differentials and brandnew ITR LSD (note Y2 = cable , Y21 = hydro). Sadly I heared a rumour about JUN EF8 hydro tranny mounts but this has never been verified.
So the whole swap was basicly a drop in!
Fuel management: I swapped my distributor and fuel rail (teste and cleaned B16 injectors), since the ITR injectors have thesame flow rate as the B16 but work under higher pressure I didn't need to cut and solder the plugs. The fewer the better and no change of any electrical malfunction.. I do not like the thought!
Fuel
The ECU is the stock PW0/PR3 but I chipped it with a 9500 rev limit and improved fuel map. Timing isn't set yet and fuel management is too rich. Soon I will take it to a local tuner and have it perfected with the use of the V-AFC. First I need to upgrade the exhaust system since my 2" system is restricting flow for sure.
I ran 14.3 on 16's with streettires, that can be much improved..
Handling is much better with the LSD, anything over 150ps in a fwd should have it!
Modifications:
Suspension:
-Stillauto SR500 16x7(ET45)
-195/45/VR16 toyo Proxes T1s
-Energy suspension urethane bushings
-SPAX RSX Coil Suspension Kit, rebound 14-way adjustable
-Sparco adjustable upper front strut bar
-Sparco adjustable upper rear strut bar
-DW lower front tie bar
-Sparco adjustable lower rear tie bar
-Camber kit (front)
-ITR 22mm (7/8\") swaybar
-A support frames (fender re-enforcement)
Brakes:
-Powerslot rotors front 282mm (redrill 4x100)
-Legend 3.2L dual piston brake calipers front
-Ferodo DS2500 brake pads front
-ITR single piston brake caliper rear
-Ferodo DS2500 brake pads rear
-SMC stainless steel brake lines
-DOT 5.1 Comma brake fluid
Performance:
-B18c6 12K mls :D
-Y2 bak / custom differential / ITR LSD
-ECU with reprogrammed ROM: rich fuel map+9.5K limit
-FPR +gauge
-Tenzo Cold Air Intake + KN kone filter
-Peak performance 4-1 header / 3" flange
-Custom cat replacement
-Custom 2,25 / 2,5" in progress
-Type R pressure plate
-TCC 4.2kg CNC flywheel
-Apexi VTEC air fuel convertor
Miscelanious:
-Battery relocation
-Group N FIA approved bolted 6 point rollcage
-Sparco Road biucketseats
-Sabelt 3-point harness
-ITR steering wheel
-OMP pedal set
-Apexi RSM
-Oil pressure gauge
-Oil temp. gauge
-A/F gauge




wow that looks wonderful! cleannnnnnn engine, there is a kit to mount a hydro tranny in the CRX chassis which is the hasport kit, which even tho is based on the ED chasis can prolly be used on the EF/EE chasis! since the only difference is the one tranny mount! anyways rebuilt y2 which is similar to the y21 and has ITR lsd you cant loose! anyways get some vids up your car looks awesome! bump for you!
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true, but you're forgetting one very important thing... the swapmounts make the b-series hang lower in the enginebay... the OEM mounts Kurt is using DON'T... i.o.w. the HASport kit might not work at all, due to cleanrance issues one wouldn't have in the ED chassis...
same as putting in a complete hydro box.. with hasport mounts there are no clearance issues in the ED chassis, but with normal mounts there are some in the EE chassis...
but hey, it's all good... the box he has right now should do the trick...
true, but you're forgetting one very important thing... the swapmounts make the b-series hang lower in the enginebay... the OEM mounts Kurt is using DON'T... i.o.w. the HASport kit might not work at all, due to cleanrance issues one wouldn't have in the ED chassis...
same as putting in a complete hydro box.. with hasport mounts there are no clearance issues in the ED chassis, but with normal mounts there are some in the EE chassis...
but hey, it's all good... the box he has right now should do the trick...
Nice price by the sounds of it
I got my ITR lump at the right price but mine came with jun3 cams & valve gear too
If you do go for a bigger exhaust system I have a jig for a 4-2-1 manifold to be used with a 2.5" system. It made a massive difference from my dc sports 4-1 & 2.25" system
BillB
I got my ITR lump at the right price but mine came with jun3 cams & valve gear too
If you do go for a bigger exhaust system I have a jig for a 4-2-1 manifold to be used with a 2.5" system. It made a massive difference from my dc sports 4-1 & 2.25" system
BillB
Difference between B16 and B18 is a mere 200cc but a hell of a difference! B16 is a torqueless monster compared to the B18. B18 just pulls even at low rpm's
I've decided to use a 2,25" system, I don't want to loose al l the backpressure at low rpm's . I know fourstroke engines should not need backpressure at all but somehow this theory does not work in real life.
Midsection will consist of small absorbtion damper and the flanges will be 2.25" allso. Frustrating to see how all aftermarket systems use bottleneck flanges
Here's me whooping Civic coupe on a 1/8 mile stretch of the Dutch TT track. Notice me braking against lock up? No times though. Just for fun. Too bad the rain ruined the fun, would have loved whooping S2000 *** :D
http://download.honda-fanatics...p.mov
When the exhaust is done I will take it to a dyno and do funetuning, I suspect the engine to produce around 215 hp at the crank. With slicks and 15's this should be good to hit mid 13's for sure
In the near future I'd like some Skunk cams and improved valvetrain to safely rev beyond 9500rpm. THough I fear this will require OBD1 conversion and SAFM software
BillB that's some nice setup you have
I've decided to use a 2,25" system, I don't want to loose al l the backpressure at low rpm's . I know fourstroke engines should not need backpressure at all but somehow this theory does not work in real life.
Midsection will consist of small absorbtion damper and the flanges will be 2.25" allso. Frustrating to see how all aftermarket systems use bottleneck flanges

Here's me whooping Civic coupe on a 1/8 mile stretch of the Dutch TT track. Notice me braking against lock up? No times though. Just for fun. Too bad the rain ruined the fun, would have loved whooping S2000 *** :D
http://download.honda-fanatics...p.mov
When the exhaust is done I will take it to a dyno and do funetuning, I suspect the engine to produce around 215 hp at the crank. With slicks and 15's this should be good to hit mid 13's for sure
In the near future I'd like some Skunk cams and improved valvetrain to safely rev beyond 9500rpm. THough I fear this will require OBD1 conversion and SAFM software
BillB that's some nice setup you have
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Hey Kurt,
Seriously good job
I cant believe how lucky you were to get the motor for the price that you did.
Guess what? Cash is still low so the project is on the back burner again!!!! By this rate I might get it finished by the time im 60
Whats up Bill! Maybe catch up at JAE?
-Mark
Seriously good job
I cant believe how lucky you were to get the motor for the price that you did.
Guess what? Cash is still low so the project is on the back burner again!!!! By this rate I might get it finished by the time im 60
Whats up Bill! Maybe catch up at JAE?
-Mark
Compare the Y2 vs S80, the are really almost thesame, the diffential housing is just some bugger on the S80 which will require cutting on the chassis, also you will need ITR axles.
I found out that 97 and newer B-series have different sized axles. Probs because the EK has a wider track and the engine is located differently in the enginebay . That is way a friend of mine was having problems with his CRVtec ED9

I found out that 97 and newer B-series have different sized axles. Probs because the EK has a wider track and the engine is located differently in the enginebay . That is way a friend of mine was having problems with his CRVtec ED9

hmm, since your using pwo ecu, it shouldn't be running its full potential, you're only using one o2 right? but full throttle will feel the same. Congrats on the find NO FAIR. anyway have fun and get hondata. lucky man.
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w3rd, Lets see more pics
w3rd, Lets see more pics
No I have two O2 sensors
#1 & #4
#2 & #3
I welded two nuts with the right threading onto the header. Works very well!
I'm thinking of OBD1 conversion , running modified P30 and some free version of SAFM. I've seen some good results so far in a friend's car.
This was not Holland, can;t get **** here.. or be willing to pay extreme
#1 & #4
#2 & #3
I welded two nuts with the right threading onto the header. Works very well!
I'm thinking of OBD1 conversion , running modified P30 and some free version of SAFM. I've seen some good results so far in a friend's car.
This was not Holland, can;t get **** here.. or be willing to pay extreme
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oh, nice work, i bet she runs real nice then, man your super lucky, i say you convert to obd-1 so you can get a real nice header, can you get hondata up there, cause that would be the best. i think with just bolt ons, you could eventually run 12's on slicks.
I welded two nuts with the right threading onto the header. </TD></TR></TABLE>
oh, nice work, i bet she runs real nice then, man your super lucky, i say you convert to obd-1 so you can get a real nice header, can you get hondata up there, cause that would be the best. i think with just bolt ons, you could eventually run 12's on slicks.


