update: the cover on the lightning audio circuit breaker/fuse was the culprit. somehow it was grounding out the system?? amp has been goin strong for weeks now with no shutting on or off anymore, no matter how much i push it. i'm so mad, when i find something to replace that lightning audio circuitbreaker/fuse, i'm gonna have a my own personal bonfire with it with lots of lighter fluid.

checked all my fuses that needed to be checked...every fuse is ok..
obviously, since the amp would have never turned back on if any fuse is blown,
right??

so saturday morning i drive to the bank..my bass was turned down
(i have a 12" XXX resonant engineering sub in a ported enclosure, it hurts you)
after making my deposit, i start the gsr, wonder why this certain song has no bass..
oh wait, the amp aint on!!! check all the fuses..they look fine..connections look fine.
this was saturday morning.

then early morning yesterday (tuesday) while driving to work...10 mins of driving..
amp turns on! 213 - groupie love sounds great with bass dammit..
so it works the whole day..get my valves adjusted at pro street import and they
serviced my radiator..amp still working when i pulled up.
after the valve adjustment i start the car up to drive home, and the amp doesn't
turn on again?!?!?!!!


WTF??!?!?!?!???

oh well, indoaudio is giving me a replacement for 20 bucks.
good warranty if you ask me.

even if the amp is ok, i'm getting a new one...my friend said the same ****
happened to him when his power wire was "pinched" by something...
but his power wire wasn't a 4guage..since his amp wasn't pushing the power mine's
is.

ANY THOUGHTS/IDEAS would be appreciated


Modified by EVOL at 7:49 AM 1/7/2005

 

I had a Hifonics amp... not too sure how to rate there quality.. i had a problem like that.. it was a lose ground and a messed up RCA cable... hifonics stuff somewhat scares me now since owning one.. i notice it also heats up fast

 

ground is bolted into chassis. hmm

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by john666 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had a Hifonics amp... not too sure how to rate there quality.. i had a problem like that.. it was a lose ground and a messed up RCA cable... hifonics stuff somewhat scares me now since owning one.. i notice it also heats up fast</TD></TR></TABLE>

dont blame the equipment for a bad install


hi-fonics make good quality ****

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bassisliffe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

dont blame the equipment for a bad install


hi-fonics make good quality **** </TD></TR></TABLE>

First of all.. you dont even have a idea of what the install looks like so learn how to ask or think before you speak..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by john666 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

First of all.. you dont even have a idea of what the install looks like so learn how to ask or think before you speak.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

it does NOT MATTER what the install looks like you mentioned faulty ground or clipped power wire or rcas or somethings of the sort

DO NOT BLAME THE AMP!!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by john666 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">.. i had a problem like that.. it was a lose ground and a messed up RCA cable... </TD></TR></TABLE>


wow! hifonics sucks ***!!!!!!!!!


how could they make an amp THAT COULD BE GROUNDED INCORRECTLY!?

OR HAVE BAD RCAS PLUGGED INTO IT!!!!???

 

ignorance is bliss.. anyone who has read your previous posts regarding car audio would notice your a moron.

 

hahahahaah!!

i love it.. and i love the fact that aside from me never knowing the true cause of
all this.. i can get a replacement for 20 bucks.
maybe i got a bunk amp..
but all the reviews i have ever read about hifonics have been nothing but either
good or great

edit: please guys, keep fighting..i'm bored.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EVOL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">edit: please guys, keep fighting..i'm bored.</TD></TR></TABLE>
im here to entertain.. post your system bassislife.. im wondering what type of system a guy who would like chelsea clinton would have.. impress me with your knowledge of car audio and installation...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by john666 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ignorance is bliss.. anyone who has read your previous posts regarding car audio would notice your a moron. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I would never trust anyone that was in love with this beast


What the hell are you smoking bassislife?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by john666 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
im here to entertain.. post your system bassislife.. im wondering what type of system a guy who would like chelsea clinton would have.. impress me with your knowledge of car audio and installation... </TD></TR></TABLE>


dude, im do not posses alot of 'knowledge of car audio and installation' and im not here to boast about anything


but i know this, YOU ARE AN ******* IF YOU CAN DISS HI-FONICS BECAUSE OF A BAD GROUND AND/OR RCAS AND/OR ANYTHING THAT WENT WRONG WITH THE INSTALLATION

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TnTWRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I would never trust anyone that was in love with this beast


What the hell are you smoking bassislife?</TD></TR></TABLE>


dude, its a joke im not really in love with her, it all stems back to a topic in gdd

 

yeah, and you guys are beginning to make this forum sound like gdd.
keep it clean fellahs.
hifonics in the past has been an exceptional company. eveyone who knows systems knows about the old-school zeus amps. get the new amp for $20. if, after you install this new one, it doesn't work, then it is your wiring. so if it IS your wiring....
promptly /yourself.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bassisliffe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


dude, its a joke im not really in love with her, it all stems back to a topic in gdd </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thank god...... but even if you were i was just messing around

 

LOL my amp turned on again while i was driving.

i wonder what will happen tomorrow

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spark plugs. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah, and you guys are beginning to make this forum sound like gdd.
keep it clean fellahs.
hifonics in the past has been an exceptional company. eveyone who knows systems knows about the old-school zeus amps. get the new amp for $20. if, after you install this new one, it doesn't work, then it is your wiring. so if it IS your wiring....
promptly /yourself. </TD></TR></TABLE>

sorry didnt mean to flame, just trying to make a point...

 

okay i'm on my 2nd one and it's doin the same thing.

so yah i fucked with the voltage alot when we first installed it, which was bad..
but if i burned the amp out it wouldn't suddenly come back on after a week of being shut off.

i wonder if it's the wiring or something =\

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EVOL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">okay i'm on my 2nd one and it's doin the same thing.

so yah i fucked with the voltage alot when we first installed it, which was bad..
but if i burned the amp out it wouldn't suddenly come back on after a week of being shut off.

i wonder if it's the wiring or something =\</TD></TR></TABLE> If you are on your 2nd amp and its doing the same thing, then it makes no diff. if its a "shitty" amp good amp or great amp , for two of them to have the same problem would be very rare, not impossible, just unlikely , that means the problem is something other then tha amp.
What kind of fuse do you have on the amp power wire? [at the batt.] if it's the glass kind, try replacing it,even if it looks good, one of the problems with using that kind of fuse when running a sub amp, [or any highpower amp] is the fuse has a lot of resistance and will get hot, and as it gets hot it builds up more resistance and gets hotter, hot enough to melt the solder that connects the "fuse" to the end caps, I have replaced more then a few of them in cars that were haveing the same problems as you discribe, and if it turns out to be the problem, replace the fuse and holder with a better type,[waffer, mega, or even a maxi] 94

 

do you have multiple amps hooked up and are they using the same amp remote/main power cable?

Also are you sure that the amp is not "on" or do you just not hear it?

Have you measured (with a DMM) the voltage at the B+ and amp remote terminals when the amp is not working?

Answers to these questions would help to solve a lot of this.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rcurley55 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do you have multiple amps hooked up and are they using the same amp remote/main power cable?

Also are you sure that the amp is not "on" or do you just not hear it?
</TD></TR></TABLE>

that's my only amp.
lol i can tell when the amp is on because not only does it have an on light, but the letters "HIFONICS" all light up in light blue ..which makes it pretty obvious (didn't expect you to know that considering most of your amps are PPI or ARC.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rcurley55 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Have you measured (with a DMM) the voltage at the B+ and amp remote terminals when the amp is not working?
</TD></TR></TABLE>

consider me blonde...i'll have to ask albert or sean to help me with that haha
(ATF Kuk and vteg)

 

thats wut i asked u to check last time. remember?

 

yah i know i haven't been to autozone yet.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EVOL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yah i know i haven't been to autozone yet. </TD></TR></TABLE>
okay so i got the battery/starter checked up at kragen...
it was at 14.3 volts with my headlights/radio on...so that's fine..
dad's voltmeter thing runs on two watch batteries and it's super low on batteries so i wasn't able to check th voltage on the power wire/ground wire by the amp.