I looking to get a new setup this year, track only, and so far on the top of my list is the Mugen but I wanted to know if Spoon makes a good coilover for the track? Available somewhere?
TIA,
-Will

 

Noop

 

Will, what about the Zeal B6...



This is what I am most likely going with when the time comes. I know IPS Racing has them right now for $1695.

 

ahh, yes, David and I have been talking about those lately too, isn't there an S function?? or something like that?


[Modified by winglessR, 9:40 AM 11/20/2001]

 

spoon does have a coilover setup. remember to bring your wallet. Call aj racing. 604 279 0329. or aj-racing.com.

 

Next step up after B6 would be the S6 which are an aluminum body instead of the B's Chromoly body. Next up from S6 would be the Super Function which is also aluminum and has a larger piston

 

Spoon does make coilovers but it's abit better then Mugen setup as you can choose your spring rates but the showa dampers are for the most part same as the Mugen units except for outside looks and slight differences in valving.
The Spoon units will cost you around same amount as the Mugen models except Spoon tends to be slightly lower cost then Mugen.

 

Which Mugens are you comparing the Spoons to Racer-X? the N-0, N-1, or Low Down or does it apply to all? (just for clarification)

-Will

 

Sorry. I have to look at King site from time to time because they tend not sell or show everything that I can get or whats out in Japan.

The SpoonSports sports 5 way adj with opt springs or racing springs.
These can be compared with the N1 setup with opt. springs or the Lowdown sus.
Though King does not offer optional springs on the Lowdow setup for some reason.


In Japan there is the Sports Damper, 5 way adj setup, 5 way adj setup with opt. springs, N1 with opt springs, NZ setup with opt springs.


I guess the question that goes out next what do you plan to use them for? If you want the best both worlds you may want to go with Apexi new N1 V-type coilovers for street use. Basically given you the best of both worlds. I have few folks looking at them because there first company on the block with the new DC5 coilovers. Though buddyclub and Spoon and Mugen are still in process or testing or R&D for the new DC5. I can get you alot more info on the Apexi setup if your interested just IM me.

 

I should have clarified that in my original post, Track only, comfort is not an issue anymore, so I'm looking for something pretty ready for the track. I knew my HA's weren't gonna cut it for much longer, they're gone now, so I'm ready for something serious.

 

....ahh get the Mugen N-zero or N1's then.
Those should rupture your spleen and colon nicely.

(its my turn) yeah Spoon has their own coilover sus:

bah! their server seems to be down - I was gonna link a pic.

 

get the zeal b2
more bang for the bucks!

 

well if your talking """track only setup""" then i would suggest moton. that is what the king motorsport's type-r uses..and several other grand am itr's...and the king itr is fast...although the moton's are about $1200 a piece!! not that cheap though..im sure you prolly seen them on king motorsport's website...

 

I like the Zeal B2 race setup or the Aragosta setup, or the Mugen NZ's with optional springs or Leda race setup.

 

spoon...they are hella comfy on the street even with the relatively high spring rates, but if you have that much money to burn, go with something else.

for the money, you can go with many other coilovers that are lightweight aluminum-bodied, stroke adjustable, pillowball upper mount..whatnot

spoon has none of those funtions, but if you like the name showa, go for it.

 

Zeal S6, or if you want full out get the Super Functions

 

Lots of guessing going on in this thread. Fact of the matter is that to successfully use a race shock like the Moton, you have to have things like data aquisition, accurate tire temps, section times, etc. Otherwise you're just guessing, and while you're screwing around with the super cool shocks, I'll be out having a blast. Don't get me wrong, I love the Moton shocks, but they are tough to setup right. I know 2 ITR's in this area with Motons (Grand-Am cup cars). One is hooked up, and the other is lagging behind.

If you're an enthusiast, get Bilsteins with GC sleeves and 400F/600R. You can drive this to the track, though it will be rather bumpy. For those of you suggesting Mugen N1's or the Spoon's, you have apparently NEVER road on a real race suspension. First, they would get destroyed on public roads, and your kidneys will get pummeled as well. The minimum that Zellner even recommends on Mugen N1's is 600F/900R. 900 linear!... I hope you know a glass guy, cuz you will be breaking windshields (you think I'm kidding?) Oh yes, and then there is the fact that you'll be destroying the chassis if you don't have a full cage.

Warren

 

stop advertising ur products

 

warren, tell it like it is brotha!
yeah... isnt a serious track setup going to be almost unbearable on the street?
~for driver AND chassis?~
I hear the Zeal Super Function is a great setup, and costwise it is a good deal compared to the competition in that high caliber product range.
But, you may want to look into a Bilstein or Koni / Ground Control setup as you may have easier service and ease of getting different spring rates.