Can you use a weapon r fuel regulator with the hondata system?
Another freakin thread cause nobody gives a **** about the old one evidently

 

The FPR somewhat defeats the purpose of tuning with the Hondata but there's no reason why you can't use them together...

 

What do you mean by that, I figure this is basically the same as the stock one with the exeption that you can raise the pressure

 

Hondata controls every aspect of your engine. Fuel pressure etc... that's why he said it would defeat the purpose of Hondata.

 

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Hondata won't allow you to control fuel pressure. If you're running the stock fuel system and you begin to run out of fuel, Hondata isn't going to help you if you don't have a FPR that can raise the pressure. However, if you're using larger injectors in combination with the Hondata, the adjustable FPR generally won't be necessary.

So to answer the original question, yes you can use the FPR with Hondata, but depending upon your setup, it may or may not be necessary.

 

Yeah im going to use it just because I have it and recently bought the stainless lines for it from flamenco. So you see it will just be there for cosmetic reasons evidently better then selling it, but heard you need a 1:1 regulator

 

On hondata it says to set the 1:1 pressure to 60. What fuel pressure do I set the weapon r at idle and at wot for use with the hondata

 

If it is not a 1:1 regulator then do not use it. IF you use a rising rate regulator, it will just make tuning a nightmare and cause you more problems. sell it

 

I dont think the aem fpr is a rising rate. I mean it doesnt give fuel according to boost or anything. Can someone clear this up

 

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Hondata won't allow you to control fuel pressure. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Correct, Hondata doesnt control fule pressure.

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If you're running the stock fuel system and you begin to run out of fuel, Hondata isn't going to help you if you don't have a FPR that can raise the pressure. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Hondata doesnt control fuel pressure, But it does control injector duty cycle (So you dont need to have an adjust. FPR) to add more fuel. Now unless, your duty cycle is maxed and you cant afford bigger injectors, you can add more fuel with an adjust. FPR(But that is a "Band-aid" fix to getting bigger injectors)

 

Well a lot of us already have fpr before we go hondata, so we cant just throw **** away

 

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Well, thats exactly what the Weapon R one is. Stock regulator is all you need with Hondata. You dont want excessive fuel pressure (from an adj. regulator).

 

I have a Hondata, 440 injectors, and a with stock regulator. It runs out of fuel at 6500 rpm (injector duty cycle &gt; 95%). I'm making 185 whp on a d16. Do I need to raise my fuel pressure with an adjustable regulator, or is something else wrong? I have an upgraded fuel pump, and the fuel filter has been changed recently.

 

I would definately suggest getting larger injectors or Band-Aid fix it by getting a good FPR and riase the FP

 

I'm definitely planning on getting this fixed, but was wondering if there might be some other reason why I can't get more fuel in past 6500 rpm besides pressure. (Figured I'd get this info before buying a $200 adjustable regulator that it turns out I don't need). 440s should be more than enough at only 185 hp, right?

 

should be most definately....especially on a D-series

 

I've heard so many times that Hondata works well with STOCK fuel pressures and that raising it wasn't necessary. Could anything else cause this problem? The only thing I can think of is a fuel pump going bad.

 

I wonder cause 440 injectors can make a lot more power then that

 

What do we set our fpr to, I know stock it idles like 38# do we set it to wot or idle pressure and enter that number into the hondata?

 

Figure jsut leave it stock fuel pressure at idle and at wot

 

Is the fuel regulator set at a base fuel pressure at like 60# idle, cause last I remember it on my old car it was idling at 38# and when you open to wot the fuel pressure goes up. Is this normal or should it be locked on the fuel pressure that I set it on.

 

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Alot of confusion here.. A rising rate regulator will add fuel on a 1:1 basis.. This is to overcome the injectors having to spray into a boosted manifold since its harder for the pintals to open up when your in boost..

 

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Wanna tell me how thats done???

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by greg987 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a Hondata, 440 injectors, and a with stock regulator. It runs out of fuel at 6500 rpm (injector duty cycle &gt; 95%). I'm making 185 whp on a d16. Do I need to raise my fuel pressure with an adjustable regulator, or is something else wrong? I have an upgraded fuel pump, and the fuel filter has been changed recently.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Something doesnt sounds right here.. I was making 200whp on dsm 450cc injectors and it worked fine all the way up to 7100 rpms..

Adjustable fpr's just allow you to run more fuel pressure.. Most injectors are rated at (I think its 38psi).. So raising the pressure to 45psi will allow the injectors to flow more fuel..