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Keep in mind I would need everything required to convert my SOHC setup in an eg to DOHC

Is this possible?

 

ha no. u can barely get a b16 swap and install labor for 2500 now.

 

sell your sohc vtec swap for 375, get a b16 swap.. that's the only thing you can really get.

 

sorry can play with nothing for 2500 bones.

 

You could pull an LS or B16 swap for $2500 but you won't be able to make an all motor powerhouse by any means.

 

don't buy a b16 swap you won't be impressed. If your on a budget I would suggest shopping around locally to see what you can find or building an ls/vtec or b20/vtec. You can pick up a b20 longblock for 600-800, a b16 head for around 550, and a gsr trans for 600-700. If you want just run an ls or b20 for now until you can come up with some money to build it right. How far are you from pa. pm me.


Modified by justinh595 at 12:51 AM 6/23/2004

 

With those prices he would have spent close to $2k. What about ecu, axles, injectors, linkage, mounts, gaskets, hoses, fittings, etc etc? This stuff isn't cheap when you really have nothing to start with. On top of that LABOR---OUCH.

 

I would take these guys words for it. I also wanted a B16 engine to replace my d16z6. Pistons and rods gonna cost around $890, then was told will need a bigger cam maybe skunk 2 and a valve train upgrade ($490 parts). thats just the beginning. So doing my research and taking time to build the motor one part at a time. Maybe 4k could do it ( /prays )

 

hahahahaha, u said "all motor, powerhouse and $2500" in the same sentence.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sack Master &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">With those prices he would have spent close to $2k. What about ecu, axles, injectors, linkage, mounts, gaskets, hoses, fittings, etc etc? This stuff isn't cheap when you really have nothing to start with. On top of that LABOR---OUCH.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you guys really need to open your eyes a little to whats around you and not hmotors and other distributors. I bought my complete gsr swap for 1800. A friend of mine just bought a complete 96 gsr that was rolled for 1200. If you get off the net and go look around its crazy the things you find. Labor as far as i'm concerned if you can't do it yourself don't do it at all. I'm just trying to help this guy out before he spends 2500 bucks on a b16 swap

 

Best way is to piece your motor together. Should be able to build a LSVTEC for around 2500 with no labor.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1 2 NV &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hahahahaha, u said "all motor, powerhouse and $2500" in the same sentence. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Well, you get what I'm saying...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by biassj &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Best way is to piece your motor together. Should be able to build a LSVTEC for around 2500 with no labor.</TD></TR></TABLE>
can I build it correctly by myself... don't the sleeves need to match the combustion chambers in diamiter and don't you need a machine shop to do that.... I guess indirectly, I'm asking.... can anyone piece together a lsvtec correctly?

 

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can I build it correctly by myself... don't the sleeves need to match the combustion chambers in diamiter and don't you need a machine shop to do that.... I guess indirectly, I'm asking.... can anyone piece together a lsvtec correctly?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Search my friend, you can do it yourself. It's pretty simple acutally. A lot of people here do it themselves.


Good basic article
http://www.c-speedracing.com/h...c.php

 

I can't believe nobody suggested an H22 swap.. On hmotorsonline.com last I checked they go for about $2100.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ricochet. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I can't believe nobody suggested an H22 swap.. On hmotorsonline.com last I checked they go for about $2100.</TD></TR></TABLE>

what about the cost of the axles and mounts

 

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you guys really need to open your eyes a little to whats around you and not hmotors and other distributors. I bought my complete gsr swap for 1800. A friend of mine just bought a complete 96 gsr that was rolled for 1200. If you get off the net and go look around its crazy the things you find. Labor as far as i'm concerned if you can't do it yourself don't do it at all. I'm just trying to help this guy out before he spends 2500 bucks on a b16 swap </TD></TR></TABLE>
I was going with the prices you listed. I never said you couldn't find a GSR swap for $2000. Those are few and far between though. And chances are you are getting some stolen parts. <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Touch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
can I build it correctly by myself... don't the sleeves need to match the combustion chambers in diamiter and don't you need a machine shop to do that.... I guess indirectly, I'm asking.... can anyone piece together a lsvtec correctly?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The cylinder bore on the LS and GSR are the same 81mm 3.189in. If you are doing a B20(84mm) then its a good idea to deshroud the combustion chambers.
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We bought a prelude front clip for $2500. When all was said and done it costed an additional $1500 atleast to buy everything we needed to make it work right and look great. On top of that there is cutting and a ton of rewiring you need to do to make it work. Maybe the fact that it was a RHD H22 had something to with the outrageous cost. That and I am too meticulous about everything I do. I have seen some hokey set-ups.

 

b18b plus itr pistons = 12's.

if by all motor powerhouse thats what u mean. i know i could do that for 2500, but thats only bc i already have a b18 sittin in my garage collecting dust.

 

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I was going with the prices you listed. I never said you couldn't find a GSR swap for $2000. Those are few and far between though. And chances are you are getting some stolen parts.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just because I get good deals doesn't mean i buy stolen ****. Thats the first thing I do when I buy engines is carfax the vin. Its not worth losing your whole car to get a good deal on a motor. Few and far between, I just pmed the kid and let him know if he was interested I could get him a gsr swap tommorrow if he wanted. comes with paperwork and mileage on the engine, everything needed to drop into a civic for 2500 maybe less. thats without looking. He can even see the salvaged car it came out of if its still there. The engine also comes with a warranty.

 

seems like if you hunted for good deals you could put together a pretty decent LS VTEC. Get a tranny for 600. an LS shortblock with clutch and flywheel for 200, axles mounts and linkage for about...400. b16a1 head, IM and TB for maybe 250. P30 pistons w/ rings for around 350. ARP rod bolts, a 350 dollar header (those fake SMSP headers are probabably best bang for the buck). Thats almost 2500, spend the rest on injectors, ECU, wiring, tuning. Maybe more then 2500 there, but not by much.

 

b20 bottom end, plus b16 head and itr or another generic intake manifold. plus gsr cams and a dc 4-1 header.

thats a 170ish whp setup right there with the right ecu

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Touch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">??
Keep in mind I would need everything required to convert my SOHC setup in an eg to DOHC

Is this possible?</TD></TR></TABLE>

https://passwordjdm.com/index....c56c4

Look at the first few motors up top and call them.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bob-DC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b20 bottom end, plus b16 head and itr or another generic intake manifold. plus gsr cams and a dc 4-1 header.

thats a 170ish whp setup right there with the right ecu

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