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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 06:35 AM
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JDM h22a from hmotorsonline.com $3149
Intallation from JE Import Performance (MD) $1500
Misc. Parts from Kunkels $160
10in Slim Radiator Fan $120

Not too bad for a complete install. I will post pictures as soon as I get them. The car runs great, pulls very hard, shakes a little... needs alignment I think. No check engine lights. I am loving it!
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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 09:00 AM
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you got raped for the install price

But as long as its done right and you like it,
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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 09:02 AM
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Sweet, Glad to see you got it all together. Now enjoy that torque.
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 05:17 AM
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Well, it was $1500 for install.. which included water pump, both timing belts, rear main seal, clutch installed, fly wheel resurface, plugs, wires, 5.2 quarts of motul oil, anti-freeze, FPR install and fuel rail install. Not bad in my opinion
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 05:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbogixxer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sweet, Glad to see you got it all together. Now enjoy that torque. </TD></TR></TABLE>
When I stomp on the gas in first gear at like 3,000rpm my wheels don't spin. Do you think that my tires might be good? Or is something up.. But from all the forums I've seen people said that it is hard to keep traction with the h22
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 05:25 AM
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i also don't get any wheel spin. but my motor is strong...strange huh!!!
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 06:19 AM
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When I stomp on the gas in first gear at like 3,000rpm my wheels don't spin. Do you think that my tires might be good? Or is something up.. But from all the forums I've seen people said that it is hard to keep traction with the h22</TD></TR></TABLE>

People exaggerate. Enjoy that 13 second car.
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 08:51 AM
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I will enjoy it Also, they are nitto nt450 on the front and toyo proxies in the rear. 16" rota circuit 8's
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 10:01 AM
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When I stomp on the gas in first gear at like 3,000rpm my wheels don't spin. Do you think that my tires might be good? Or is something up.. But from all the forums I've seen people said that it is hard to keep traction with the h22</TD></TR></TABLE>

any mods? what type of tires? Rim size? Tire pressure? Spring rates? Any traction bars? With an automatic ECU in my H22'd hatch I could not spin tires at all from 3,000 RPM, with intake and exhaust on it. Once I found out it was an automatic ECU I swapped to a manual transmission ECU. Then From 3,000 RPM I can get about 3/4 throttle b4 traction loss, on 205/45/16 Eagle F1's at 28-30 PSI on 16" Oz Superleggras with GC coil overs (400F/350R). There are alot of factors on traction. I thought my car was weak cuz it was hard to spin tires unless I go past 3/4 in first gear. But then I raced a stock SRT-4 Neon. I blew his doors off. Had him by a car length by 30 MPH. Took him about 4 to 5 car lengths or so in a quarter mile. After that I was satisfied. SO it really all depends. Best bet take it to the track. See what type of ET u get.
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 10:12 AM
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I get up to 40mph or so in 1st gear.. Nitto tires on car, weapon R coilovers... not sure on spring rate, no traction bars.. Should I check my plugs to see if I am running lean/rich ?

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EDIT AGAIN: AEM fuel rail., AEM FPR, AC Technology CAI, stock jdm header, skunk2 exhaust
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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 10:17 AM
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Also, my oil pan is only like 4 inches from the ground, what do you guys do about this? It seems like it's going to be difficult to drive this thing in certain areas.
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 04:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93preludeh22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">both timing belts</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wow, you must have the super jdm h. Mine only has 1 timing belt and 1 balancing belt............
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 05:20 AM
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But then I raced a stock SRT-4 Neon. I blew his doors off. Had him by a car length by 30 MPH. Took him about 4 to 5 car lengths or so in a quarter mile. After that I was satisfied. SO it really all depends. Best bet take it to the track. See what type of ET u get.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If those are your mods in your sig, I'd doubt that you are beating any srt4 by 4-5 cars in a 1/4 mile. He'd have to be a horrible horrible driver... and even then....

*cough* BS *cough*
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 06:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93preludeh22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I get up to 40mph or so in 1st gear.. Nitto tires on car, weapon R coilovers... not sure on spring rate, no traction bars.. Should I check my plugs to see if I am running lean/rich ?

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40 mph in 1st?
Where are you shifting at?
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 03:40 PM
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7500 or so
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Old Jun 22, 2004 | 05:23 PM
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wow, dont go 40 mph in first

at 45ish - im in second gear at 4700 rpm, i dont see how your 1st could go all the way to 40 (safely)


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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DarkKnight[DMD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">]

If those are your mods in your sig, I'd doubt that you are beating any srt4 by 4-5 cars in a 1/4 mile. He'd have to be a horrible horrible driver... and even then....

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I have an AEM CAI, Spoon chipped P13, Magnaflow exhaust, magnaflow cat, 16" OZ Superleggras, Eagle F1 GSD3 tires 205/45's, GC, 400F/350R, ACT Pro-lite 8.8 pound flywheel, ACT extreme pressure plate clutch, factory LSD tranny. I ran the front tires at 28 PSI, the rears at 51 PSI. The Koni yellows were ran all the way to the stiffest setting in the rear, and 1 turn up from the bottom on the front. I currently have the Totem traction bars on right now, but I didnt when I raced the 2004 SRT-4 Neon. The guy seemed to be a decent driver. I also raced a (260 WHP or so he claimed, not sure if I believe that) 2003 SRT-4 with a Mopar stage 2 with 15 pounds of boost, waste gate, intake, exhaust, and got him up to about 110 MPH (barely, about a half of car length or so) from a dead stop. I did have the Totem traction bars installed for this one. From a roll when traction wasnt a factor he killed me. In reality its the traction that I am getting over the SRT's. Its not the power. I have the stock SRT-4 by a car length getting into second gear. Once I nail second gear I can stand on the throttle. I had the other Neon (stage 2) by about a half a car lengh getting into second. Sorry man but I hate to tell u that your ET's are very slow for an H22 (no offense man). I pulled 94 MPH trap speeds on a 92 CX D16z6 hatchback weighing in at 1960 pounds, with i/h/e, phantom grip, 10 pound flywheel, ACT clutch, It ran a best of 2.13 60 foot, 14.8's @ 94 MPH on stock 13" steelies if that tells u anything. Your 60 foot times are especially slow.


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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 02:46 AM
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dude the neon srt 4's arent THAT fast. Back when i had my stock d16z6 and my buddy had is d16z6 with flywheel, I/H/E, VAFC, Light crank pully he kept up really nicely. I know from his runs that my h22 would show that srt4 what honda's are all about.
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Honda_Tengoku

I have an AEM CAI, Spoon chipped P13, Magnaflow exhaust, magnaflow cat, 16" OZ Superleggras, Eagle F1 GSD3 tires 205/45's, GC, 400F/350R, ACT Pro-lite 8.8 pound flywheel, ACT extreme pressure plate clutch, factory LSD tranny. I ran the front tires at 28 PSI, the rears at 51 PSI. The Koni yellows were ran all the way to the stiffest setting in the rear, and 1 turn up from the bottom on the front. I currently have the Totem traction bars on right now, but I didnt when I raced the 2004 SRT-4 Neon. The guy seemed to be a decent driver. I also raced a (260 WHP or so he claimed, not sure if I believe that) 2003 SRT-4 with a Mopar stage 2 with 15 pounds of boost, waste gate, intake, exhaust, and got him up to about 110 MPH (barely, about a half of car length or so) from a dead stop. I did have the Totem traction bars installed for this one. From a roll when traction wasnt a factor he killed me. In reality its the traction that I am getting over the SRT's. Its not the power. I have the stock SRT-4 by a car length getting into second gear. Once I nail second gear I can stand on the throttle. I had the other Neon (stage 2) by about a half a car lengh getting into second. Sorry man but I hate to tell u that your ET's are very slow for an H22 (no offense man). I pulled 94 MPH trap speeds on a 92 CX D16z6 hatchback weighing in at 1960 pounds, with i/h/e, phantom grip, 10 pound flywheel, ACT clutch, It ran a best of 2.13 60 foot, 14.8's @ 94 MPH on stock 13" steelies if that tells u anything. Your 60 foot times are especially slow.


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First off I in no way compared my times to yours. My car weighs at least a 1/4 ton (500lbs.) more than your hatch. And nearly a half ton (1000lbs.) more than your '92 cx d16z6 weighing in at 1960pound with i/h/e, phantom grip, 10pount flywheel, ACT clutch, with a 2.13 60 foot, 14.8's @94mph'.

Second, my 60 foot times are not slow. My best is only tenth off of your best. Compare that to the average b16/b18c/h22 hatches and coupes around here pulling 2.3-2.4s+.

Third, unless you like to under dampen you should be always be running your Koni yellows at 95-99% full stiffness. (Yes, I did say 99% because it is not recommended to run it fully turned).

Now, to get back to you pulling an SRT-4 by 4-5 car lengths. Maybe you "accidentally" over estimated. Your hatch at full weight with those mods may hit 13.5-13.7, a stock 2004 SRT-4, that comes with a stock LSD mind you, can pull 13.8-13.9s easily.

I'm not jocking SRT-4's and in fact I dislike them and 80% of the stunna's that hump their hair dryer sized turbos, but I've learned and you should learn to, that by spreading. At the track near here most of the srt-4s are running low 14s, but you look at their slips and they are running 2.4-2.6 60s. If you ran that helluva run of a 13.5 and you had a stunna driving the other side, I would give you a blind shot in the dark's chance of pulling 5 car lengths. I don't doubt that you can beat one, just don't spread misinformation.

And next time you want to play this game, get off my **** and on the facts and you'll soon realize you are in the wrong.

Originally Posted by delLudeVTEC
dude the neon srt 4's arent THAT fast. Back when i had my stock d16z6 and my buddy had is d16z6 with flywheel, I/H/E, VAFC, Light crank pully he kept up really nicely. I know from his runs that my h22 would show that srt4 what honda's are all about.
I've my friend here has an h22 hatch running high 13s at 101-102mphs w/ 2.1-2.2 60s. I know they are fast. Like I said before yes, I don't disbelieve you will be him, but pulling 5 car lengths on him is a completely different story.
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Old Jun 24, 2004 | 03:28 PM
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I apologize expressly.
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WHOA!!!!!!!!! WTF!?!?!??!?! IS GOING ON HERE? lol

Honda_Tengoku, im sorry if i missed it.. but what did u say u were running at the track again? if u even said it... but really its mah bad.. i dont pay attention to things like this... but anyway.. ur time?

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93preludeh22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">JDM h22a from hmotorsonline.com $3149
Intallation from JE Import Performance (MD) $1500
Misc. Parts from Kunkels $160
10in Slim Radiator Fan $120

Not too bad for a complete install. I will post pictures as soon as I get them. The car runs great, pulls very hard, shakes a little... needs alignment I think. No check engine lights. I am loving it!
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sorry buddy, dont wanna contribute to the hijacking. LOL...
anyway.. where the pix at bro?

-and uh.. elaborate for me if you could on your car shaking....
-what kind of mounts u have.?.
--good JOB on the swap. (install kinda high)must've been a good shop huh ?
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4-5 car lengths does not always exactly mean .4 to .5 tenths in a quarter mile. It may be less than that. So lets say for instance sake that it was somwhere around 3 tenths faster or so. The car is capable of 13.9's correct? So 13.6's for my hatch would be unheard of? Honestly I dont think I would have run that. I was thinking more along the lines of a high 13, but whatever works for u. As far as your car goes and your 14.6 timeslips. Well u have alot of room to talk when your car is only running that time. I find it funny that u can critisize somone else when my old D16Z, 126 WHP hatch can hit better MPH in the quarter mile that your H22 can! And u want to to get all upset about this and say
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First off I in no way compared my times to yours. My car weighs at least a 1/4 ton (500lbs.) more than your hatch. And nearly a half ton (1000lbs.) more than your '92 cx d16z6 weighing in at 1960pound with i/h/e, phantom grip, 10pount flywheel, ACT clutch, with a 2.13 60 foot, 14.8's @94mph'.

Second, my 60 foot times are not slow. My best is only tenth off of your best. Compare that to the average b16/b18c/h22 hatches and coupes around here pulling 2.3-2.4s+.

Third, unless you like to under dampen you should be always be running your Koni yellows at 95-99% full stiffness. (Yes, I did say 99% because it is not recommended to run it fully turned).

Now, to get back to you pulling an SRT-4 by 4-5 car lengths. Maybe you "accidentally" over estimated. Your hatch at full weight with those mods may hit 13.5-13.7, a stock 2004 SRT-4, that comes with a stock LSD mind you, can pull 13.8-13.9s easily.

I'm not jocking SRT-4's and in fact I dislike them and 80% of the stunna's that hump their hair dryer sized turbos, but I've learned and you should learn to, that by spreading. At the track near here most of the srt-4s are running low 14s, but you look at their slips and they are running 2.4-2.6 60s. If you ran that helluva run of a 13.5 and you had a stunna driving the other side, I would give you a blind shot in the dark's chance of pulling 5 car lengths. I don't doubt that you can beat one, just don't spread misinformation.

And next time you want to play this game, get off my **** and on the facts and you'll soon realize you are in the wrong.

I've my friend here has an h22 hatch running high 13s at 101-102mphs w/ 2.1-2.2 60s. I know they are fast. Like I said before yes, I don't disbelieve you will be him, but pulling 5 car lengths on him is a completely different story.

look first of all I am not on here spreading misinformation. just because someone beat an SRT by 4-5 car lengths doesnt always mean .4 to .5 tenths in a quarter mile. Remember that that is not an exact estimation. It may be soemthing like 3 tenths of a second faster in the quarter or something. so what 13.6 compared to a 13.9 and thats unheard of? Perhaps the guy wasnt that good of a driver. Who knows. What I do know is I had a car length at 30 MPH on him. I also know that my second and 3rd gear pulled on him hard. Personally I am very disappointed in the Neons. I thought they would be faster. I am the hardest critic on myself. When I Killed that Neon everyone there (there was about 200 people there at the time) said that my car was prolly low 13's. U know what I said? No ******* way. To be honest with my mods and the car being untuned I think a low 13 is very unreastic estimation for my car, personally I think my car is prolly a high 13 second car or so. When I run it I will let u know. As far as timeslips goes I have not ran this car at the track yet.

BTW WTF are u to critisize someone when your H22 only runs 14.6's !! OMFG!@ I mean my 126 WHP hatchback ran faster MPH times than your H22 does! As far as your 60 foot times goes, ok they are not horrible, but they are not great. U are comparing your times vs other people who run 2.3 to 2.4 60 foot times. OMFG. I wouldnt even dream of comparing my times to them. Please. If u want to compare your times to people who dont know how to drive. Well thats all on u. haahaaha. what a joke. Get off your dick? Im sorry I am not your boyfriend, and I am definately not gay. go talk your homosecual comments to someone else. Cuz I dont care.
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first off, 93preludeh22, I am sorry for the hi-jacking.

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You see what he weighs in at? In fact, a STOCK '00 SI weighted less then him (They were weighted on the same night ).

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Look above, You understand that the less you weigh, the faster you accelerate?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Honda_Tengoku &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Please. If u want to compare your times to people who dont know how to drive. </TD></TR></TABLE>

MPH = potential. 60' = ET. He can compare MPH any day of the week and still be in the right.


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Coming from a person that does not have ETs for his car. I would love to see the 60' for your first run. It takes a big man to talk **** about another car and not have gone to the track himself.
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-and uh.. elaborate for me if you could on your car shaking....
-what kind of mounts u have.?.
--good JOB on the swap. (install kinda high)must've been a good shop huh ? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Shaking: When I stomp on the gas in any gear when I am accelerating it feels like it shakes kind of bad.. Not sure...
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