Interesting first 3 rows:
Ferrari -- Barichello
Ferrari -- M.Sch.
Honda -- Sato
Honda -- Button
Williams-BMW -- JPM
Williams-BMW -- R.Sch.

 

what are the odds in vegas sato blows up?

i thought toyota did very well with presumably lots of fuel on board.
wearing my good luck ferrari shirt last night worked.

 

what are the odds sato tries to overtake MS and causes a crash, but im still rooting for honda

 

I was just watching. I didn't catch the whole comment, but the commentators were talking about who I believe was someone on the BAR camp who believes Sato will be faster than Button in 2 years, and also said that Sato is very technically precise. Did anyone catch that?

I thought that was an interesting comment, as recently there was a thread on this board about Sato's driving, where many posts seemed to be critical of Sato's driving skills (i.e., he pushes to hard, etc).


Frankly, I don't know enough to have my own opinion on that subject, but I'd have to believe someone who knows Sato and is close to the team.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Vitt1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was just watching. I didn't catch the whole comment, but the commentators were talking about who I believe was someone on the BAR camp who believes Sato will be faster than Button in 2 years, and also said that Sato is very technically precise. Did anyone catch that?

I thought that was an interesting comment, as recently there was a thread on this board about Sato's driving, where many posts seemed to be critical of Sato's driving skills (i.e., he pushes to hard, etc).


Frankly, I don't know enough to have my own opinion on that subject, but I'd have to believe someone who knows Sato and is close to the team.</TD></TR></TABLE>

He may actually be quite precise but just lacking consistency. This condition affects lots of young, good, fast drivers who are trying to make their mark.

Its the ones who can tame their driving and still maintain their speed that stick around. The same commentator also alluded to this.

Rick

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Vitt1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was just watching. I didn't catch the whole comment, but the commentators were talking about who I believe was someone on the BAR camp who believes Sato will be faster than Button in 2 years, and also said that Sato is very technically precise. Did anyone catch that?

I thought that was an interesting comment, as recently there was a thread on this board about Sato's driving, where many posts seemed to be critical of Sato's driving skills (i.e., he pushes to hard, etc).


Frankly, I don't know enough to have my own opinion on that subject, but I'd have to believe someone who knows Sato and is close to the team.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think it was one of the team principals or investors, someone high up. IMO Sato's weakness is judgement. He has the aggression and he has the pace. Once he learns to balance aggression/discretion he will be a formidable opponent. At the very least other driver's will be somewhat concerned when they see him behind them!

 

Sato did a good job today

 

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Nice to see him finally finish a race, in 3rd nonetheless.

 

1 and 2. As usual.

 

How does MS pit behind the safety car and still get out ahead of the guys that did not pit? That doesn't seem right - Ferrari was up to something. I imagine Ruebens slowed down in second so much as to let MS pit and still get out.

 

Rubens had to create space so there would be a time gap since he and Michael stacked their pit stops. Rubens needed the space so Michael would have time to complete his stop and he could pull in the pit, just as Schumi was leaving. Sato also said in the post race that he had to go really slow through the debris field, giving more time to Michael to complete his stop and stay out in front.

Brian

 

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OH yeah, 3rd place is a very respectable finish

 

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OH yeah, 3rd place is a very respectable finish</TD></TR></TABLE>

First Japanese F1 driver to have a podium finish in something like 14 years. What did you think of MS's blocking on Sato going into T1 at the start? He blocked at least 2x, and may have technically violated rules, but didn't get nailed for it.

 

he blocked him once, which is legal. sato wasn't close enough on the 2nd manuever to be considered blocking.

 

what makes satos performance more interesting is he was 19 before he began karting. most other drivers probably had 5-15 years behind the wheel by that age

 

I was trying to follow what they were saying about the PC and MS' stop, but it wasn't making sense to me.

So, you're saying that the PC came out and gathered up the field, with MS first and RB second. Then, the PC and MS kept moving at pace speed and RB slowed the rest of the pack down behind him creating a gap? A gap big enough for MS to pit and get back out behind the SC before 3rd place could catch up? And that's legal?

You've got te be kidding me. Someone please tell me I am wrong...

 

That's pretty much what happened, and also the safety car and the rest of the field had to reduce speed going through Ralf's debris field, giving more time for Ferrari to pit. And I'm not sure of the rules about passing the pace car if you are in the pit lane. If you can, Michael could have given himself considerable time by zipping around the safety car whilst on pit road (obviously before the area pit speed is regulated)

Brian

 

I can't believe with all the F-1 technology and facility organization at Indy that Ralph Schumacher sat there in his car for 5 minutes before ANYONE got to him. Not to mention Ralph MISSED the safer barrier by a few feet. Uhhhh...why is the safer barrier not extended for that corner knowing F-1 runs in that direction.??? No one better say COST..

By comparison, if the safety crew in Germany took that long to reach say Alex Zanardi, he would most defnietly be gone.

for safety by F-1 and Indy.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Floyd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was trying to follow what they were saying about the PC and MS' stop, but it wasn't making sense to me.

So, you're saying that the PC came out and gathered up the field, with MS first and RB second. Then, the PC and MS kept moving at pace speed and RB slowed the rest of the pack down behind him creating a gap? A gap big enough for MS to pit and get back out behind the SC before 3rd place could catch up? And that's legal?

You've got te be kidding me. Someone please tell me I am wrong...</TD></TR></TABLE>

You are wrong...it is simple and explained elsewhere. The time it took MS to enter the pits (long pit in) and make his stop was less than the time it took the safety car to slowly maneuver through the debris field created by the RS accident.

It is funny though how some people dislike MS so much, and want to see him fail, that blame for a possible incident is placed on the wrong person. If RB did slow up to create a gap bewteen himself and MS, it was for HIS OWN benefit. Sure it possibly helped MS (still the slow safety car had the most impact), but Rubens still had a chance to win the race. I believe RB created the gap so he would not risk overheating by sitting stationary on pit road for 15+ seconds while MS was getting fuel, tires and the pit then set up for another stop.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rickpeak &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You are wrong...it is simple and explained elsewhere. The time it took MS to enter the pits (long pit in) and make his stop was less than the time it took the safety car to slowly maneuver through the debris field created by the RS accident.

It is funny though how some people dislike MS so much, and want to see him fail, that blame for a possible incident is placed on the wrong person. If RB did slow up to create a gap bewteen himself and MS, it was for HIS OWN benefit. Sure it possibly helped MS (still the slow safety car had the most impact), but Rubens still had a chance to win the race. I believe RB created the gap so he would not risk overheating by sitting stationary on pit road for 15+ seconds while MS was getting fuel, tires and the pit then set up for another stop.

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Don't believe for a second that Ferrari did not tell Ruebens to slow and hold the field up. Sure, it would allow Ruebens to pit on the same lap as MS without waiting for MS to finish - but it also allowed MS to get out ahead of the field, and you can bet that was the main reason for what they did.

 

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Don't believe for a second that Ferrari did not tell Ruebens to slow and hold the field up. Sure, it would allow Ruebens to pit on the same lap as MS without waiting for MS to finish - but it also allowed MS to get out ahead of the field, and you can bet that was the main reason for what they did.</TD></TR></TABLE>

no doubt about it, rubens gets the shaft so MS can win

 

Was it true that MS said he'd help RB win the title? I saw it in Autosport but I'm sure Autosport put that quote out of context.