Looking for some feedback on the suitability of the 2nd Gen Integras to be competitive/win in ITA. How do they keep up with the Miatas, CRXs and Civic HBs, especially on tighter tracks? Any issues in regards to finding performance parts?

 

Shmeek,

IM ITAIntegraLS, (Edik), as he is currently running one (and also doing quite well in WCHC H4.

 

He dos not just keep up with CRX's he runs them down and pull on S2000 in a turn.

 

the 90-93 Integra has the best hp/wt ratio in all of IT. In the NER, it is the car to have. Most of the top ITA drivers have them. Anthony Serra holds most lap records up here with his, and is almost in the running with the top ITS cars.

 

You right Jake. My 3SGE motor makes good power, but I still cant keep up with my friend Edik. His mixing it up with the ITS guys. It took us 3 months to build that Teg and it took Edik 2 years to make it perfect.

 

there's a rookie driver in MiDiv who has one and does quite well with it. it is also largely an underprepared vehicle, so i think there is definite potential there.

of course, if anybody actually prepared a miata for ITA instead of running a SM in ITA, the miata would walk everyone.

 

There's usually no less than 5 integras in the top 10 in the NER region. Like Jake mentioned it is the car to have up here. There are probably more integras in the NER ITA class than any other car. CRX numbers seem to be dwindling. That dohc motor just has the torque to pull it out of corners. And on the tighter tracks we have here in the NER I think that's the big advantage of the integras. On a longer course I think the aero of the CRX and the d16a6 motor seems to have better top end and the CRX's tend to catch up and actually have an advantage.

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there was a miata in ITA up here and he's a damn good driver but has a hard time breaking into the top 5 (from what I've seen). It's prepped to IT rules too, maybe not fully developed. He just doesn't have the power out of the corners to be able to pass. So I don't think it would just walk everyone. Again, like Jake mentioned Serra's times have typically put him in the top 3-5 in ITS. I think you'd be hard pressed to see a miata do that. I don't know what the min weight for a miata is in ITA trim as opposed to SM, that's a big factor for those cars if IT lists them heavier.

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Same with HC H4...time for additional weight!

j/k Edik

 

We certainly do have a few here:

 

You can also PM "Mr. Frost" (that's his name on G2IC, I believe it's the same here), who races an LS in ITA.

Unfortunately, the GSR is in ITS and gets smoked to hell. I'm pretty sure the G2 GSR isn't competitive anywhere, though I haven't heard of anyone in H3. Guess that means I'm definitely not building my car (I'll buy an LS racecar!).

 

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O MY GOD, hey Edik look what you did man. Now everyone wants an DA for a race car.

 

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there was a miata in ITA up here and he's a damn good driver but has a hard time breaking into the top 5 (from what I've seen).

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i was kidding about that. i'm just a bias miata driver.

 

Brian Lock runs a 2nd Gen Integra here in NorCal WCHC. He seemed to be doing really well to me. It was hard to tell with our smaller fields.

When we did the crossover event with SoCal @ Buttonwillow, he finished fourth. Of course this is after getting tapped/spun on the first lap & fighting his way back thru the pack. This is with a junkyard motor!!

 

Someone mentioned the 2nd gen GSR. I'm not considering this car. It most likely would fall in ITS. Unless the car marque starts with the letters BMW, there's little hope of being anything than the best of the rest. I'm looking at building a 91 Integra RS for ITA.

 

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That is a good choice.

 

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Save yourself some trouble and see if you can find a 92-93 model off the bat. Subtle differences that make it a better choice.

We have a couple up here in the NW. The only negative is the brakes - the car is just a tad heavy and thus requires earlier braking than the CRX (or miata bastards )

Greg

 

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Otherwise you'll be converting the important pieces to conform to the 92-93 years.

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Or you just need to order some of these. http://www.trucknutz.com/ The teg does have larger brakes.

Rick--Who will find out soon, probably next year if Greg is telling the truth.

 

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Save yourself some trouble and see if you can find a 92-93 model off the bat. Subtle differences that make it a better choice.

We have a couple up here in the NW. The only negative is the brakes - the car is just a tad heavy and thus requires earlier braking than the CRX (or miata bastards )

Greg
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Well, right now it's actually a complete 1990 Shell sans engine, tranny and ECU. All other parts seem to be there. I was actually thinking of sourcing a 1992 engine for the 10 extra HP. Other than this, what other differences might I be looking at?

 

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Save yourself some trouble and see if you can find a 92-93 model off the bat. Subtle differences that make it a better choice.

We have a couple up here in the NW. The only negative is the brakes - the car is just a tad heavy and thus requires earlier braking than the CRX (or miata bastards )

Greg

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What are you saying???? My friend out brakes every CRX in the field. We have some dame good drivers here in Socal. The LS brakes are the best.

 

The 2nd Gen Integra is def the car to have in ITA. Serra really knows the cars well too, and his results back it up. He has a shop in North Salem, NY, he just did some suspension and other various work on my car. If you are serious about building an ITA Integra, I would get in touch with him, he posts on improvedtouring.com, his sn is R Racer, I forget his email address. Good luck with the project.

 

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No, I completely agree. I was just complaining that the car I drive (GSR) isn't competitive anywhere. 92-93 RS/LS is the way to go. Some other subtle differences between the 90-91 and 92-93 are: front bumper (small cooling, aero differences?), transmissions are not completely interchangable (input shaft, case, mount), shift fork. Suspension and brakes are the same, and then the differences in the motor. Go to http://www.g2ic.com to find out everything.

 

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I have been saying that for the past 4 years now. And have proved it.

 

from what I've seen the teg's are better on tracks with longer straights,and although their brakes are bigger, have to run the same size tire which has the same limit as the CRX(more weight=longer stopping distance).bigger faster tracks the teg has the advantage(better HP-weight),shorter tighter tracks the CRX.
hopefully Gregs door ding will be fixed for Spokane which I think is suited for his Integra(longest straight in N.America).Plus I'd like to see him battle with rick after the trucknuts suggestion