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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 05:57 AM
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I searched around and looked on Prestige wheel. They don't list any rings for the ITR/TL, etc. I have 15" Slipstreams. Can anyone tell me if I need the rings?
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 06:06 AM
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Rota Slips do not need hubcentric rings for the wheels sold for the ITR.

They're a cast design of the hubcentric Spoon wheels.
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 06:13 AM
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I never bothered with hubcentric rings. If you torque the wheels down properly in a star pattern you will be fine. Of course check your lug nuts every so often if you do hard driving on the street. I never drove fast on the street so I never checked them but on the track (HPDE) the lugs would come slightly (i mean slightly) loose after the first session but after re-torqued they were good the rest of the day

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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 06:23 AM
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I don't use them, but they would be handy when lining up the lugnuts.

Just be sure to pay attention when tightening up the lugnuts you will see that if you tighten one and the others don't fit 100% loosen the first one and then tighten all in the proper pattern.

IF they fell in my hands I would use them, but I would not go looking for them.
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 06:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EleanoR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I never bothered with hubcentric rings. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'd use hubcentric rings on wheels that were designed to use them.

Kosei K1, for example, should have hubcentric rings in the applications sold for the ITR.

The problem w/the Kosei hubcentric rings is that the ones that're automatically supplied are hard plastic. Of course, we melted them in a couple of track sessions.

I'll call around and see if they make metal ones, because I heard you can crack the Kosei around the lug holes if you're not using hubcentric rings for these wheels in racing conditions.
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 06:32 AM
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Thanks.
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 06:36 AM
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I never had a problem with a car not using hubcentric rings. Even on the 12 hour enduro cars. Torque the wheels initially off the ground, and keep a close eye on your lugstuds.
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 07:06 AM
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Has anyone found a source for metal hubcentric rings? I too have melted plastic ones in one track session.
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 07:22 AM
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use them, without the hubring, it puts alot of stress on the lugs. ive seen many lugs break over time b/c the person was to cheap to buy a 5 dollar plastic ring. its made for a reason.
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 07:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TurblowR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">use them, without the hubring, it puts alot of stress on the lugs. ive seen many lugs break over time b/c the person was to cheap to buy a 5 dollar plastic ring. its made for a reason.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes it puts additional stress on the studs.

But I dont think its anything to be concerned about, especially on a street car.
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 07:33 AM
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The car will be autocrossed and see a HPDE or two this year, but nothing serious. If a stud were to break, they're only $3 from the dealer.
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 07:35 AM
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I'm not sure what slipstreams you guys have, but mine certainly aren't hubcentric. Mine have a bore of 73mm, as opposed to the ITRs stoock bore of 64.15, hence I used a 73x64.15 plastic hub ring. I have yet to melt one but have heard horror stories. You can pick them up at your local discount tire for like 6 or 7 bucks
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 07:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Aquafina &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The car will be autocrossed and see a HPDE or two this year, but nothing serious. If a stud were to break, they're only $3 from the dealer.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not in the front.......

You'll need to replace the wheel bearing. Anti-seize and proper torquing.....
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 09:48 AM
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tirerack has aluminum hubcentric rings in stock for their kosei k1 wheels.
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 09:54 AM
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Oh, damn. Oh well. I'm not worried about it. If one breaks, then I'll just refresh all the wheel bearings.
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 11:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by magic hat #9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">tirerack has aluminum hubcentric rings in stock for their kosei k1 wheels.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks for the tip.

They had them in stock for both the Kosei and the SSR's, and I ordered a set of each.
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 11:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by py1188 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm not sure what slipstreams you guys have, but mine certainly aren't hubcentric. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Whoa. That's interesting to know.

I realise that I was talking about 16x7 Rota Slips that are on my EP3. I apologise, but I have never had Rota on the ITR. Those wheels appear to be exact copies of the Spoon 4x100 16x7 wheels, except cast, of course.

Sorry about that. I should have been more careful what I said and more careful w/the information.
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 11:27 AM
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So anyone with 15x6.5 Slipstreams have any input on this?
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 11:28 AM
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As far as I know the only rotas that have a honda-hubcentric bore are the 4x100 slipstreams that were made for some shop in california (auto innovations?) that bought the initial production run. There was a thread aboot it in the RR forum.
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 02:04 PM
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Tweakmister on the board sells metal hubcentric rings. They are probably not the right size for an ITR though, I bought them for my GSR and have forgotten all of the hub mm sizings.

You might want to ask him though, worth a try.

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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TurblowR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">use them, without the hubring, it puts alot of stress on the lugs. ive seen many lugs break over time b/c the person was to cheap to buy a 5 dollar plastic ring. its made for a reason.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If that were the case, would they really manufacture them out of plastic? Once the nuts are torqued down, the stress is really no longer placed vertically on the lugs. Lugs have been known to break, regardless of whether the wheel was hub-centric or not.
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 09:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Aquafina &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So anyone with 15x6.5 Slipstreams have any input on this?</TD></TR></TABLE>

the ones i had, were not. 15x6.5 5x114.3 slips
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 05:30 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by esponet &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
the ones i had, were not. 15x6.5 5x114.3 slips</TD></TR></TABLE>

Are all these non-hubcentric Rota coming with rings? I don't remember anybody mentioning receiving any w/Slips.
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 06:08 AM
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Jon,
Appreciate the free PR

I no longer sell them...they are available on eBaymotors through various sellers for about $10 + sh. Definately worth it
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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 07:57 AM
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no i have never seen them come with rings.
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