This past weekend while at the races I went over to see Stephan papadakis' car. I noticed he isnt running any type of intercooler. Does anyone know why he is doing this. Someone pointed out, but I dont know if its true, that alot of the Grand National guy running high boost do the same thing with no intercooler. Is there any advantage to this that I dont know about?
Please inform me....

art

 

Are you sure he wasnt running a Water/Air Intercooler in there somewhere?

 

He almost had to have been at the boost their running, recommended to only run w/out intercooler if you aren't pushing many pounds of boost.

 

I remember somewhere seeing a 9 sec Hyundai (i think it was hyundai) that was running no intecooler. It was a drag only car and I think the idea was that an intercooler wasnt needed since the car was only moving for <10sec each time it ran - just a thought, I can't begin to pretend I know what they're thinking

 

Is he running nos for a intercooler??

 

NOS is his intercooler hahah!
unless its a 200 shot, i don't think it can cool the airs as
efficient...

water/air can have 100%++ efficiency

 

yeah i'm almost positive that it's a water to air that he has

 

yup, remember, water to air ICs aren't front mount. so if you're judging whether or not he has an IC, it's probably under the hood

 

he's running a methanol system, which cools things quite nicely, and doesn't introduce a pressure drop. That's what I read anyway..

 

Ahh ok... just like John Brown was. Remember he didn't use and intercooler at with his methanol setup.

 

Yea Ed Berg( I don't know how to spell it) runs a similar setup.

 

Ah.... This makes sense now! They must be using a water injection system but rather than using water, they use Methanol! Nice!!!!!

 

Oh duh!! I am 100% he wasnt running a IC. MarkC, Ben@importparts, and myself saw with our very own eyes. But the Methonal makes sense now. Mark, why didnt you think of that Mr. Diesel?

art

 

He is definately not running an intercooler. I have looked over the car several times in person. He just has red AEM piping that goes directly from the turbo to the manifold.

Dustin

 

err.... he runs methonal as a fuel. not injected like water injection. that kinda of alcohol injections uses denatured/isypropyl dilute variety alcohol. papadorkis doesnt run an i/c because they are not effcient at such short burts. the burnout heat the i/c that has no airflow cause the car is sitting there..see now its just a hot *** heat excahnger... by the time its cool the run is over. back to alcohol, yes it does burn cooler as a fuel than lets say gasoline. but they do burn twice as much of it....thusly alcohol motors run extremely hot and tend to melt alot of ****.

 

yea ed bregenholtz has no intercooler and runnig 34PSI according to Import Racer Mag http://www.importracermag.com and he is also running on alcohol. and his fluidyne is mounted right next to the firewall behind the engine. crazy huh?

 

that is one sick little puppy!

 

Ed Bergenholtz's car does not even run right now. It is pretty much completely torn apart and it's sitting at AEBS.

 

I saw the berkenholtz crx at sema...


In the back of course

 

alcohol burns mcu cooler therefore no ic is required... alcohol is much differant from running gas though

 

Of course Ed's car is running. Im buddies with his nephew who is in my crew. He told me about some test runs.

 

No, last weekend in SA he busted the CAM in 3. Saw his car at SEMA then the very next weekend for IDRC lonestar nationals.

art

 

Where is your reference to my quote? And what is "busted the CAM in 3" ?

 

he busted the cam shaft into 3 pieces

 

Yes, thats what I meant.