Well, I'm new here and I have a question for all you s2k guru's.
Right now I'm driving a 95' Supra Bpu+++, I ran a 12.4@116 with the car. I love my Supra to death, but the only problem is its an auto and I truely can't stand driving an auto any more. I came from a 98gsx before this and it was manual and just loved driving that around.
I'm looking at selling my Supra and possibly getting an 2000 s2k for around 20k with low miles.
I've done my searching and have found a couple in close range to me.
I know the s2k won't every be as mosterous as the supra in a straight line, but I want something fun to drive!!!
Here are my questions to you all.
Are the 2000 models of the s2k okay? I've heard rumors of engines blowing because of the high revs and what not. Are the 2k versions just as reliable and nice as the 01 or 02???
Also, one last question, I've heard they aren't that fun for city driving? Can someone confirm this with me? I wouldn't understand how they wouldn't be fun, but I guess I could be wrong...possibly because they don't have a lot of torque down low?
I'm also 6'2 and hope that I fit in one. I'm going to go up to the dealership tomorrow and see if I can sit in an s2k.
Thanks for all you help guys!!!
Take care,
Ryan

 

Wow from a Supra to a s2k, you gonna miss the boost man, jk. Get an 02 and above so you can have the glass rear window.

 

Well, I'm new here and I have a question for all you s2k guru's.
Right now I'm driving a 95' Supra Bpu+++, I ran a 12.4@116 with the car. I love my Supra to death, but the only problem is its an auto and I truely can't stand driving an auto any more. I came from a 98gsx before this and it was manual and just loved driving that around.
I'm looking at selling my Supra and possibly getting an 2000 s2k for around 20k with low miles.
I've done my searching and have found a couple in close range to me.
I know the s2k won't every be as mosterous as the supra in a straight line, but I want something fun to drive!!!

-If you want something fun to drive, then you picked the right car.

Here are my questions to you all.
Are the 2000 models of the s2k okay? I've heard rumors of engines blowing because of the high revs and what not. Are the 2k versions just as reliable and nice as the 01 or 02???

-There are a couple of things to be aware of. The 2000 model suffered what many call a "buzzing" from the clutch. I believe the true cause is the springs vibrating in the friction disc. There is a TSB (not an official recall) from Honda about replacing the piece. Honda can choose to NOT replace a car affected with this problem. This problem is not a mechanical malfunction, it's simply a noise.

-Honda updated the ECU in the 02-03 models. They make a little more power. As far as the engines blowing up, you are probably referring to the oil jet bolts. These bolts were updated to allow more flow in 02+, so the oil jet squirters would send more oil onto the piston for cooling. The driving style that would cause failure is commonly found in Europe, like Germany's autobahn. Some people there are driving in VTEC, in 6th gear. That type of driving was causing a slight oil starvation situation at the oil jets with the older bolts. If I'm not mistaken, the oil jet bolts were an official recall in Europe, but not in America. But the driving environment is very different between the two regions...

Also, one last question, I've heard they aren't that fun for city driving? Can someone confirm this with me? I wouldn't understand how they wouldn't be fun, but I guess I could be wrong...possibly because they don't have a lot of torque down low?

-Gotta remember, it's a 2.0 liter 4 optimized for very high RPM operation. Even the pre-VTEC cams have to make power up to 6000 RPM. Remember, this is the redline of some cars. So Honda had to create a cam profile on the pre-VTEC cams that wouldn't fall short on power before the VTEC transition. So don't expect a lot of grunt down low. But above 6000 RPM...it's the most fun I've ever had behind the wheel, in any car.

I'm also 6'2 and hope that I fit in one. I'm going to go up to the dealership tomorrow and see if I can sit in an s2k.
Thanks for all you help guys!!!
Take care,
Ryan

 

the 00 has the plastic window... ... the 02+ has little differences on the inside. for instance.. all leather around the center console instead of carpet from the 00. also the 02+ has a little more power cause of the ecu upgrade/change but it's not much..the 02+ also has extra speakers... the 00 only has 2 speakers up from.. but the 02+ has 2 speakers and 2 tweeters.

then when it comes to color.. if you want a white with red interior.. you're gonna have to go with the 00.. cuase they stoped makign that.. and they changed it to white with tan interior... and if you want a suzuka you'll have to go with ummm i believe 02+....

 

Don't let the plastic window stop you from getting a 00-01. I noticed the visibility (although still not much) is noticably better with the plastic. Just gotta make sure you keep it polished or it can get kinda tacky looking.

 

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Please.

Even a perfect plastic window (does not exist) looks cheap next to the glass windowed top. No matter how well you maintain it, it's going to look like ****. It cheapens the overall look of the car. As for visibility... visibility sucks anyways. Plastic window doesn't make the ride any more fun. It makes it less fun cuz everytime you think of putting the top down, you gotta think about the crease. With the glass top... pay no mind.

I'd definitely go after an '02+.

 

I have an 01 and I really don't care about the plastic rear window. Would I rather have a glass window? Yes. Did I want to spend $2000 more on a glass window? NO. I'd rather spend the money on a hardtop (which you can find used for a little over $2000) or other mods. It's much more fun to drive with the top down anyway.

 

Regarding a MY2000, if you want to track the car on HPDE days or open lapping, replace or ensure that the oil jet bolts are replaced. It's not a big job. You can buy the newly designed bolts in the USA and the job will take about two hours for a slow install.

Try shifting the transmission from 1-2, 2-3 and 3-2. If it grinds, look for another car unless you are buying from a Honda dealer that will replace the synchros under TSB 53 or whatever the number is. If they do this, have them replace the clutch disc and pressure plate too.

While the plastic window may not appeal to some, I'm more than happy with it. If you simply apply some static cling film from Home Depot ($5 box does about 4 cars) you'll find that it will not wrinkle and actually improves the looks. Plus, you never have to polish it. Just replace the film. This is my fourth summer with it and I'm very happy with the plastic window.

If you intend to use FI, I suggest that you try for an MY2002 or MY2003. They are better suited to FI. Having said that, I've been supercharged for 67,000 miles and my car gets onto the track from 3 to 6 days per month. I'm on my third short block rebuild.

If I had to do it all over again, I'd stay naturally aspirated.

If you are going to track the car, have somebody follow you. If you blow blue smoke on sweeping right-hand turns, install a PVC oil catch. That will keep your intake passages and throttle body clean of oil blowback.

 

Have you sat in one, cause my cousin just sat in mine and he's 6'2 and he was pretty tight.

 

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Please.

Even a perfect plastic window (does not exist) looks cheap next to the glass windowed top. No matter how well you maintain it, it's going to look like ****. It cheapens the overall look of the car. As for visibility... visibility sucks anyways. Plastic window doesn't make the ride any more fun. It makes it less fun cuz everytime you think of putting the top down, you gotta think about the crease. With the glass top... pay no mind.

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You can polish the crease out. If you think it's worth the extra money, good for you. I don't, the extra $2k could buy some really nice coilovers or something.

 

Like I said, perfect plastic window or not, it makes the car look cheap. Guys, just admit it. The glass window is a huge upgrade both aesthetically and functionally.

And $2K will NOT buy you really nice coilovers. In fact, you'll end up with a setup that's worse than stock.

Plastic window sucks ***.

 

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I'd rather spend the extra 2-3k on a hardtop which will look better and be more aerodynamic than your soft top w/ a glass rear window, so what's your point? I didn't buy this car to impress anyone with how expensive it looks. IN MY OPINION the glass rear window isn't worth the extra money.

 

the dude hasn't even bought the car yet so u make it sound as if an '02 is automatically $2K+ more than an '01. there are so many variances in the purchase price, it's a moot point to argue in absolute values.

bottom line is, the improvements to the '02 and having it all fit factory style is it. i'm saying FIND a way to get an '02 around the same price range. and what the fock does a hardtop have to do with this? you said it yourself, it's a lot more fun to drive top down. it's a convertible so let's deal with the accessories piece for the modification conversation. hardtop or not u still have to deal with a plastic window. you put that plastic window down for even 1 day when u have the hardtop on and u got a nice *** crease that u have to spend TIME dealing with. do it again and again and it's more time and hassle.

get an '02+.

 

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And $2K will NOT buy you really nice coilovers. In fact, you'll end up with a setup that's worse than stock.

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What? £700 ($1300) will get you some quality Koni coilovers that are loads better than stock!

 

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And $2K will NOT buy you really nice coilovers. In fact, you'll end up with a setup that's worse than stock.
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seriously....thats the dumbest shiet i've ever heard. 2k (+/- 2 to 3 hundred) wont get you anythinbg better than stock? ha

 

so who's notably fast that uses these $2K S2000 JDM coilovers? name one.

 

tranny swap?

 

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why are you trying to bail yourself out by asking an irrelevant question.? that my friend is rubbish if you ask me. just answer one thing for me, are you saying that all the companies that make suspension in the 2k range, tein, tanabe, bilstein, zeal, jic...all of those, if used, will not make an improvement in handling over stock?

 

it's completely relevant. ask krazik, one of the fastest amateur s2000 guys on s2ki.com. ask jrz, another guy who's PROVEN to be a very fast S2000 guy (he's on a completely STOCK suspension). ask The Reverend how he feels about JIC.

go big or go home. or in your case, get thee to a hot import boys show and get wood over less than stellar $2K JDM coilovers.

they're not that great. they're not nearly as thoughtfully tuned to the chassis, engine, tranny, etc. like the stock setup.

 

It's possible to drive fast on the stock setup, it's a really good setup. However, it's possible to drive faster with tuned aftermarket parts. Revalved Koni shocks will make a noticable enough difference. A good coilover will make an even more noticable difference. I never mentioned anything about JDM components, I don't care if it's made in Russia.

Also, I said thats what <U>I</U> would spend it on. $2k will not get your far on the motor. Other options would be some tires and practice laps, the hardtop like was mentioned before, or even an audio system that you can actually hear would be nice for some people.

Sure you can get a 2002 for cheaper than a 2001, but it'll probably be in worse condition. Given all things are equal the 01 will be cheaper than the 02, and the 00 cheaper than an 01. The motors are strong, and miles dont effect them so much, so I say get an older car and have more play money leftover. If you prefer less miles, glass back window, new ecu, tsb's fixed, etc, then thats cool, and it's your opinion, but you don't need to shoot down what other people say just because you would do something different.

 

While I'm not trying to defend the sub $2K JDM coilovers, as I probably wouldn't buy any of them myself, I believe 2 of the 4 Honda Challenge S2K guys I know of are using Tein RS (Scot and Effect). I'm not sure what Yellow Streak is using, but Sphinkter is using the Mugen N-Zero setup (which is way more than $2K).

The Reverend, while he's had his problems with the build quality of the JICs, admits to them being a slight improvement over stock.

I'm just hoping Moton follows through with their supposed development of the Club Sports. Or I'll just have to settle for some lowly JRZ singles.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WRS2K &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it's completely relevant. ask krazik, one of the fastest amateur s2000 guys on s2ki.com. ask jrz, another guy who's PROVEN to be a very fast S2000 guy (he's on a completely STOCK suspension). ask The Reverend how he feels about JIC.

go big or go home. or in your case, get thee to a hot import boys show and get wood over less than stellar $2K JDM coilovers.

they're not that great. they're not nearly as thoughtfully tuned to the chassis, engine, tranny, etc. like the stock setup.</TD></TR></TABLE>

there you go dissin jdm parts again. i dont know why you love to do it so much. anyways, i'm not saying get a jdm suspension setup for 2k and you'll be the greatest s2k on the road. but as someone said earlier, i dont really care WHERE the suspension is made. china, japan, russia, england, us...if it works well, then get it. i dont care for the jdm bling bling factor, and thought i mentioned JDM companies i'm not head over heels for them (only mentioned them because they're really the only cost effect options for the s2k...for complete coil over setups)

 

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then when it comes to color.. if you want a white with red interior.. you're gonna have to go with the 00.. cuase they stoped makign that.. and they changed it to white with tan interior... and if you want a suzuka you'll have to go with ummm i believe 02+.... </TD></TR></TABLE>
you can buy white exterior with all-red interior for 2002. this is the only year that honda make in this color combonation. making it one of the rarest s2000.

2000-2001 comes in white exterior with black and red interior.
2002 comes in white exterior with all-red interior.
2003-2004 comes in white exterior with black and tan interior.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WRS2K &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it's completely relevant. ask krazik, one of the fastest amateur s2000 guys on s2ki.com. ask jrz, another guy who's PROVEN to be a very fast S2000 guy (he's on a completely STOCK suspension). ask The Reverend how he feels about JIC.

go big or go home. or in your case, get thee to a hot import boys show and get wood over less than stellar $2K JDM coilovers.

they're not that great. they're not nearly as thoughtfully tuned to the chassis, engine, tranny, etc. like the stock setup.

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You are a muppet aren't you! I can't even be bothered. Standard dampers are compromised for comfort, not just for performance. Coilovers most definately aren't

 

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GREAT argument. If we're refering talking about autocross performance, aftermarket dampers should softer in the rear to limit wheel spin in tight corners. Not only will they be more comfortable but they'll perform better, so there goes your argument.