has any one done this
what mounts would i need
how hard is the swap
will i be able to switch to obd-1 or should i get the wiring harness and ecu as well
what axles would i need
and anything else you can tell me about the swap
please don't flame or tell me to get the h22,

 

I think it's a good swap.

It bolts in the same a a h22. so get a h22 mount kit.

it's a super cheap engine, with lots-o-torque, and about 70lbs lighter than a h22.

for wireing and such get a 95-94 accord ex ECU that should work just fine. then you just have to wire for VTEC.

good luck.

 

yes, it has been done before.... there is a place in crestview, fl called adam's automotive with an f23a bolted into a 5g 4dr...

 

i did a f22a1 out of a 91 accord in my 94 4dr lx. the easiest way..... use the hasport h22 mount kit for civics. i tried to fab alot of the stuff myself and some worked, some didnt, it looked kinda hacked. finaly just used the hasport kit. it was tight, the only 94 4dr civic around spokane running the sohc 2.2. and that leaves you open to the h22 or 23 later on. im not telling you to get the h22. to be honest, i friggin loved the f22, torque out the *** in that light *** car. hasport.......its the way to go. all motor with bolt ons i was runnin mid 14's on the 13" steele wheel with hubcaps. sleeper. good luck man. reaserch h22 into the civic, its all the same process

 

what tranny options are there for the f23/f22?

 

any tranny out of the prelude or accord, 4cyl-5-speed of course. the best is the prelude h22 tranny, shorter gears. or if your wanting to hit 147 mph like i did, use the acoord tranny, super tall gears. except the newer atts tranny out of the prelude, dont even try, way to much wiring and fab work.

 

thanx every body, how much do those hasport kits cost?

 

its not cheap, total about a grand is what i spent, but i got it when it first came out. plus all the little things like axles and whatnot. if you got the dough, use their axle kit too.

 

is there any oem axles you can use

 

Yeah, if you're going to do a F series swap, get the H22 tranny. Same with the D series. People want the D16Z6/Y8 tranny. Shorter gears. The F22B1 in my 97 Accord has got gobs of torque. But damn, wiring up the ***.

 

ok, if you wanna piece yours together (axles) heres the recipe:use 90 up accord intermediate shaft with 90-93 integra axles. to use the prelude intermediate shaft a shorter left-hand axle with a female inner joint must be used. to construct the proper left-hand axle, use 94 gsr left-hand axle inner and outer joints on an 86-89 integra axle shaft. hope you understand all that

 

thanx for the help, so heres the run down of what i need to do, use accord intermediate shaft with 90 teg axles i have get the f23a1 engine and tranny(h22 tranny sometime in the future) get hasport mount kit (does any other company make some cheaper, where is the cheapest place to buy the hasport kit?) use pre 98 accord ex ecu, run some wires for vtec. is that all i would need is there anything i'm missing here?

 

If I'm not mistaken, 1994-1995 are OBD1 and 1996-1997 are OBD2.

 

thanks dimi

 

it is funny cause me and friends have been talking about doing a f22 swap in my friends hx. So that he can be faster than me . Is there a write up anywhere on here? If not one of you should do it. also can we see some pics of this motor in your car? i want to see what it looks like under the hood.

 

what about shift linkage and dizzy(obd-2 to obd-1)


Modified by 4g4drb17 at 4:55 PM 6/16/2004

 

how about an h23 tranny with an f22 5th gear

some guy in the accord forum is running all motor gutted accord with an h22 tranny....last i heard i think it was in the 13/12 second range

 

f22 into a civic...minus well just go with the h22 since its the about the same hassle.

 

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*cough*overathousanddollarsmore*cough*

 

ya, i never actualy took pics of that car. i wanted a dsm at the time so i sold it to some chick in coeur 'd alene ID. since i was using an obd1 motor in an obd1 car, it was just little wiring issues, just basicaly extending some of the wires. like the alternator is on the front of the engine instead of the back. and i got away with using the lx ecu since there was no vtec. i tried to make it as simple as possible.

 

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*cough*overathousanddollarsmore*cough*</TD></TR></TABLE>
cough trymorelike2grandmore cough

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[/i]</TD></TR></TABLE>any body?

 

shift linkage, there is none. h and f use cable shifters. so you need the whole shifter assembley out of an accord or prelude.... plus the cables. you have to cut a hole in the floor for the cable to go through. i dont know directly about the dist. sorry man.

 

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Beat me to it.

 

is it a bitch to do?

 

As far as the cable rigging goes, should be the same as swapping in a H22 into an EG.



This is a H22 into an EK taken from AbaZ's thread on his H22 into an EK. Should be the same into an EG.