Short shifter ?harder to shift?

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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 11:00 PM
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yeaterday my friend came over and i put in his short shifter so when i was done i got in and it was stiffer is greassed up i dont under stand cuz i put one in my crx and it is amazingly easy to shift it just glads but his is stiff in his eg and is really hard to speed shift. just wanted to know why?
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 06:00 AM
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Your pivot point has changed on the shifter.. So when you shift your moving the linkage faster, thus it takes more force to move.. Its normal and just takes some getting used to..
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 06:29 AM
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Default Re: Short shifter ?harder to shift? (tgreaves)

its not going to be excessivly bad , i put mine on and it did the same thing, what you have to do is loosen the bolt that goes between the shift linkages(the one that goes through the ball)! Should be a easy fix!
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 06:34 AM
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Correct, It shouldnt be too bad but still is a difference that will be noticed..
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 07:13 AM
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Default Re: Short shifter ?harder to shift? (tgreaves)

the lowest bolt on the shift lever is not to be tightened until it cannot turn anymore. it is only meant to be tightened until it touches the metal. that is why it is a nylock nut-so it can't back off. loosen that nut so the shifter can pivot appropriately. a short shifter should never change the ease of shifting-merely the throw.
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 07:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kylefakesi-r &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the lowest bolt on the shift lever is not to be tightened until it cannot turn anymore. it is only meant to be tightened until it touches the metal. that is why it is a nylock nut-so it can't back off. loosen that nut so the shifter can pivot appropriately. a short shifter should never change the ease of shifting-merely the throw.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 08:17 AM
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kylefakesi-r... ur signature made me laugh...i feel the same way.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kylefakesi-r &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the lowest bolt on the shift lever is not to be tightened until it cannot turn anymore. it is only meant to be tightened until it touches the metal. that is why it is a nylock nut-so it can't back off. loosen that nut so the shifter can pivot appropriately. a short shifter should never change the ease of shifting-merely the throw.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 10:42 AM
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sick of people giving out misinformation...gotta let them know why things are the way they are.

the sig is true is the biggest prob. like the viagra avatar?

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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 10:51 AM
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Default Re: Short shifter ?harder to shift? (kylefakesi-r)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kylefakesi-r &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sick of people giving out misinformation...gotta let them know why things are the way they are.

the sig is true is the biggest prob. like the viagra avatar?

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I'm sick of people giving out misinformation as well...If you've ever learned anything dealing with mechanics/physics/mathematics you'd know that a short throw shifter makes the throws shorter by moving the fulcrum closer to the top of the shifter (in EF/ED shifter design). Just like tgreaves posted...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tgreaves &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your pivot point has changed on the shifter.. So when you shift your moving the linkage faster, thus it takes more force to move.. Its normal and just takes some getting used to..</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kylefakesi-r &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a short shifter should never change the ease of shifting-merely the throw.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, the mechanical advantage of the shifter is different. It WILL make the shifting motion a little harder, because you are moving she shifter a shorter distance.

I agree with you that the bolt you speak of should not be tightened all the way but DO NOT deny the mechanics of it.

Vince
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 10:58 AM
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Thanks AgentJam.. I was waiting for someone else who knew the laws of physics to post..
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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 09:54 PM
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Default Re: Short shifter ?harder to shift? (kylefakesi-r)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kylefakesi-r &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
the sig is true is the biggest prob. like the viagra avatar?

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haha yeah
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