outside of engine size?

EMod:
minimum weight is 1500lbs.
engine size over 2000cc

DMod:
minimum weight is 1000lbs.
engine size under 2000cc


i have a 2200lb CRX with 1600cc...think there is any problem? DM in my region is barren. CM is entirely too fast (as if DM isn't already). EM is closer to what the car is capable of...

 

Have you looked at SM rules? I know a stripped interior will throw you out of SM but a hell of a lot is allowed in SM. I ran SM with a stripped out interior the other month b/c no one cared to be that picky about it.
Barry H.

 

CRXs goto SM2, because they are 2 seaters.


the car goes to DM. CM is for Formula Fords. EM is for BIG displacement production based Mod cars.

 

Yep D mod is fun i have a b16 powerd CRX that my wife and i run... We do quite well, in the points chase my wife is first and i am third...

 

Ooops my bad I meant SM2.
Barry H.

 

Nope, that is a legal bump-up. Index is harder and Nationally you need to deal with some tough drivers, but if you are cool with that, then you are good to go.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gefiltefish &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nope, that is a legal bump-up. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Regionally, maybe. But "bumping" doesn't occur at National Tour events, and so if he ran EM at a National Tour in a car that wasn't classed there, he could (and likely would) be DSQed by the chief steward.

Karen

 

Oh, I did'nt mean like a national-level "bumping" that occrus when classes are too small. Just a hypothetical term. Good point Karen, I should have been more careful with my words.

If you ask me, a car is legal for DM and is 1500lbs or more then it can run EM as well. I have seen plenty of Miata's do it (mainly because they were upgrading motors later on and wanted series points). I have seen done it before running a STS car in STX, even at Nationals last year driven by a very good driver. It is the same situation if you ask me.

I don't think you will be protested if you had a motor under the legal displacement. I guess you could, but it would be BS. Maybe I am missing something, but motors that are more than 2000cc usually make more power than motors under 2000cc. I wish they would re-word the EM rules to:
minimum weight is 1500lbs.
any engine size

The minimum weight is the big rule in EM. DM is the weight and motor size. You may want to ask Doug Gill though. DGill@scca.com. That way you have confirmation from the National office.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gefiltefish &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you ask me, a car is legal for DM and is 1500lbs or more then it can run EM as well. I have seen plenty of Miata's do it (mainly because they were upgrading motors later on and wanted series points). I have seen done it before running a STS car in STX, even at Nationals last year driven by a very good driver. It is the same situation if you ask me.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Theoretically, it's the same situation, except an STS car is completely legal in STX. Running an STS car in STX is like running an AS Corvette in BSP -- it's just underprepped for the class.

Strangely enough, I actually have my rulebook with me here (didn't take it out of my backpack last night after I got home from Topeka). Looking at page 227, it states for DM and EM :

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Solo II rulebook &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><u>Modified Class D</u>
Modified Production and GT cars with engine displacement 2000cc and under.
** Minimum weight - 1000 lbs.
** Minimum weight when utilizing four wheel drive - 1400 lbs.

<u>Modified Class E</u>
Modified Production and GT cars with engines over 2000cc.
** Minimum weight - 1500 lbs.
** Minimum weight when utilizing four wheel drive - 1700 lbs.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You probably wouldn't be protested by a competitor with a motor under the legal displacement, but the chief steward could and probably would. I saw this happen last year at the DC Tour with a misclassed Camaro SS -- the competitor thought it was in B stock, and registered and ran as such. It was supposed to be in AS, and so was DSQed. Did it matter? No, the car was outclassed in either BS or AS, and was DFL anyway. All it meant was that the guy didn't even get any times. Note that I'm not saying it's "right," but it has happened before.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gefiltefish &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The minimum weight is the big rule in EM. DM is the weight and motor size. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Well, the way the rules are written, the motor sizes are spelled out, and so they are fair game. Maybe it's something that could be amended though, and a letter (or two or three) to the SEB would get it changed.

Karen