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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 03:16 PM
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for some reason i have never figured this out. it kind of seems like it would be to me, but i wanted to check with other people, especially the NA guys in here
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 10:58 AM
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i wanna know cause i dont wanna use it if its going take me off allmotor status
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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yes. nitrous kicks you off "all motor status" because youre using nitrous. not just "all motor"

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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 11:28 AM
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Default Re: is nitrous considered a means of forced induction? (ls95hatch)

N2O is a means of injecting a greater amount of oxygen into the combustion chamber than is contained in normal atmospheric air, and is therefore a form of "forced induction".
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 11:35 AM
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It's usually called a "power adder" that includes turbocharging, supercharging.
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 01:23 PM
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dang. i dont know if i wanna use it now
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 03:30 PM
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dont. itll mess up yoru engine too
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 05:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ls95hatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dang. i dont know if i wanna use it now</TD></TR></TABLE> Hide it, so you can still say you're all motor.. If your car is properly tuned, AF mixture is good to go, timing is good to go, you won't have any problems.
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 07:31 PM
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First of all, my opinion is YES it is considered "Forced Induction" why? because it helping you boost your car. Nitrous is for *****'s because u need it and use it when u can't keep up to some other car and if u get nitrous people will talk **** that u need it or else, bla bla bla...u know what i mean... Just make your car All Motor Well i guess thats all i have to say...Let me know what u end up getting, ok, later
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 08:12 PM
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I'm with LSVTEC 91 Civic on this one, hide it, spray it, and don't say anything. Some say nitrous is cheating,--------THERE IS NO CHEATING IN RACING . Nitrous is a very strong tool when used correctly. Turbo, supercharger, nitrous, all motor, pick your poison.
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 08:31 PM
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I think DRY nitrous is forced induction. I have the zex "air amplifier" which shoots the nitrous directly in-line from the tip of my short ram intake. It not only shoots nitrous, but crams a ton of air into the intake as well. This is forced induction imo, compared to just spraying sideways into a spot on the intake arm.

I doubt it builds more than 1-2psi tho..

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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 09:09 PM
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why is it for *****'s if its cheep HP? Why? Isit because mommy and daddy paid for your turbo?

I say its forced induction because its not allmotor. Youare ADDING the ability to cram mor o2 in the combustion chamber.

Oh and if tuned probperly you will not hurt your engine. People only say its bad because they do it the cheapest way and dont tune. Then when they hurtthere engine they blame it on the notrous and not them selves
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 10:46 PM
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i use to think nitrous was gay too but then i thought about it. what is it any different from any other aftermarket part? you buy it to make your car faster. anyone can do it so why is it cheating. my cars pretty sturdy with: 81.50mm b18b block, je lsvtec pistons (11.5 comp), eagle h beams, crower stage 2 allmotor cams/valvetrain, type r lsd and ATC in the tranny, rc 310cc, walbro 255 pump, and other stuff thats not as cool. but i was just thinking like a 40-50 shot would be a nice little boost on rare ocations. so if i did i would just not use it very much and if people said i beat them cause of nitrous i would just race again without it and see if they are right or not. i think it would be safe as well with octane booster and proper tuning of coarse.
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Old Jun 11, 2004 | 11:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95 lude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Oh and if tuned probperly you will not hurt your engine. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Werd.

I've seen no signs of abnormal piston/cylinder/head wear on motors with over 100 passes on nitrous.

Just don't hit the stock fuel cut revlimiter when squeezing.
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 11:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rocket &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Just don't hit the stock fuel cut revlimiter when squeezing. </TD></TR></TABLE>

that doesnt matter if i am chipped right? like i am mean i dont wanna hit were i set mine, but where it use to be doesnt matter right?
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 12:14 PM
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Nitrous for pussies? The only people I hear running nitrous are super fast V8 domestics.
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 12:39 PM
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nitrous isnt cheap! try keeping a bottle full for a year and it will cost you just as much as a turbo kit! Yes it is it go's in the FI class. Other wise they be using it in the all motor class! I love all class but it is a proven fact that a built na motor will never be as fast as a built FI class motor.
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 03:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kamui &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nitrous isnt cheap! try keeping a bottle full for a year and it will cost you just as much as a turbo kit!.</TD></TR></TABLE>

really? how much does it cost to fill up a bottle? how many uses to get out of a bottle?
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 08:22 PM
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you can just say its N/A. and keep the Nitrous hide! If your not racing for money, just to shut the other person up! I'll say my turbo is N/A
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 10:25 PM
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yeah my freind said he can hide it really well. were actully thinking of putting in in my sub box!! keep the wires in loom then put all the solinoid and pulgs underneath stuff so you couldnt see it. i think that would be so badass. but then id have to get that remote bottle opener deal.
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 11:45 PM
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gut out the underside of your dash, thats also a good place to hide it.
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 12:01 AM
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i wouldn't see why not it's not a intergal system
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 08:00 AM
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cost to fell a bottle is around 3$ a 15lbs takes if cold a lil more then 15lbs so 46$ Ok I fell up once every 2 weeks. 52 weeks a year thats 26 refills. That gives me 1196$ to just refill add the cost of the kit 400$ and for one year thats 1596$ not as cheap as you would think.
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 01:47 PM
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I think it's a little far out to say N2O is forced induction, I do agree with Rocket that it is a power adder, but not forced...
For starters it's a chemical power adder and if it's cheating or for pussies, ARE those guys out there running methanol pussies or cheaters for changing the chemical make-up of their fuel to create power, or even using HIGH octane race gas, DOES that make you a cheater...Since once added to your gas tank chemically adds more power with a couple of ignition tweaks that you would NOT have had with regular gas at the pump??? But the MAIN point is that FORCED INDUCTION is forcing air into an engine mechanically...MORE air than it can suck in on it's own! All N2O does is combine with Oxygen atoms creating alot more O2 in the combustion chamber when combined with more gas causes a much more dynamic explosion.......And remember FI guys or AM guys can use N2O, it does not discriminate.... All in all though it really does keep you from being TRUE All Motor... IF you use it!...... 'cause then your spraying......AND there's no bullshittin' about it's cost 'cause it IS EXPENSIVE to keep that bottle full!
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 05:20 PM
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a nice all motor setup (forged pistons/rods, 11:5:1 comp) and a nice 100-150 shot can be recipes for a fast car
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