This setup came with the car. It uses 60mm springs. It is a dual spring setup but for some crazy reason it came with 914# main springs in the front and 800# main springs in the rear. The tender springs are at static coil bind so I don't think they are a huge factor. After losing a number of races late due to the car understeering like a pig and completely working the front tires, I finally swapped the main springs around. It is better but it still understeers.

The guys at H&R are as useless as **** on a bullfrog. I have talked to a number of people there and they all think that front stiff FWD cars are the way to go. I think they are nuts and like to drive slowly. My grandmothers Camry rotates better than my race car did front stiff. So to the point. H&R says you can only go up about 100#s on spring rates before exceeding the valving of their shock. But I don't think those idiots could tune a shopping cart much less a FWD race car. My car seems very stable and a number people have commented on how stable it appears. If I go to 971# springs in the back would I really notice a huge difference as far as the rears dampers not being able to control those springs as compared to the 914s? I guess I could also drop the 800# front springs to 743# springs. But I just don't know how different the car would feel with lower rate front springs. Any ideas?

Thanks,
Chris

P.S. I am racing next weekend on used tires. The last thing I want to do is fight understeer all day due to lack of front grip.

 

Try a search, this has been covered and covered again.

Most fast FWD guys run something like 750 - 800# front and 1,000 - 1,200# rear.

 

No offense, but don't read part of my post and tell me to do a search. I am looking for someone with specific experience or educated opinions related to this particular coilover setup. I sincerely doubt there has been a plethora of posts related to spring rates with my particular setup. Hell, almost no one on this board utilizes dual spring setups much less has the H&R Type R Road Race setup. Thanks for playing though.

 

What rear sway bar are you running? What I would do w/ limited budget if I were you.

Put the 914# spring in the rear, get a 650-700# spring for the front and go up to 26mm on the rear sway. If you are at 26mm now, get one of the Saner 26mm adjustable ones and run it a little stiffer.

That should be a good setup w/o having to drop clam on new shocks.

 

hey Chris sounds like Zsolt has given you some good advice. The bigger sway bar will help you rotate better. I took off the 26mm Saner adjustable bar that was on my car when I got it from Scott G. ....I'll let you have it cheap if you want ....say $50 plus freight.

let me know, Phil

 

would you say I have a plethora of pinatas?