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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 12:51 PM
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Here it is:

http://jpkofod.lunarpages.com/vid3.mpg (in car video on front straight at Beaverun at 100 + .

Just stuck a huge label on the dash to remind me of this. The impact didn't feel bad but it was enough to knock my wide angle lense loose from the cam corder and I also ended up with glass splinters in my foot (how it got through my nomex shoe and sock is beyond me).

Don't feel bad Warren, I get Sunday's "Boneheaded Move" award to go with your's in Saturday.

Guys, please right click save or like last time my bandwidth will get used up in a day or two.

Hope some of you make it to Road Atlanta in two weeks!

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Jon P. Kofod
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 01:14 PM
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It just happened to me like a month ago....

The shop sent couple guys over to my house and fixed it. Costed about $250.
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 01:14 PM
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Ouch!

Unfornately been there, done that.
Never a proud moment.
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 01:24 PM
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Damn! That happened to me on my street car about 10 years ago - not a fun experience. Did you stick your head out the window to see?!?
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 01:30 PM
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Default Re: DONT FORGET TO CHECK YOUR HOODPINS !! (speedracer33)

Speaking of the devil, dont just check your hood pins, check your latches.

I had a STOCK hood with a worn out latch =

Sunday returning to work from lunch break. only going about 45mph, SMACK. loudest **** ive ever heard, (and i frequent the shooting range). Hood = toast, glass = burnt, beginning portion of roof = crispy . I also had glass splinters everywhere in the car, showered all over me but didnt get cut

After I get the glass replaced I guess ill be going with a CF hood now since the sidedrafts bumped me to SM now anyway.

Lesson learned for myself, replace worn ****.
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 01:38 PM
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Jon why couldnt you have saved that move for the RA race, that would have been cool.
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 02:04 PM
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I have a rule: Everytime the hood gets closed, the pins go in. No exceptions.

(Our club has a "Boner Jacket" that it awards on an annual basis to the driver who pulls the biggest f-up during the year. You would probably beat the guy who drove his car off the trailer without pulling out the ramps, but would come in second to the guy who took off the top of his motorhome under a hotel roof eave.)
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 02:16 PM
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ouch, we saw the damage to your car on Sunday and one of my friends guessed that the hood flew up. DL'ing the video now.
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 02:21 PM
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How did this happen? Was the stock hood latch disabled or removed? I've never heard of this problem on Integras before...
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 02:45 PM
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Wow, that has to be scary. I only had that happen to me once (on the road). I had to pick up a wrecked Daewoo Leganza rental car, and since the front end was smashed in the hood was not shut, and when I got on the highway it lifted. Fortunately it had those hyraulic shocks so it rose slowly and didnt actually hit the windshield, I just pulled over and shut it again. It was actually pretty funny.

Fortunately I shouldn't have this problem with either of my cars since my Civic the hood opens the opposite direction (yes its that old) and the MR2 has the engine in the back.
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 05:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bulldog_RS20 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a rule: Everytime the hood gets closed, the pins go in. No exceptions.

(Our club has a "Boner Jacket" that it awards on an annual basis to the driver who pulls the biggest f-up during the year. You would probably beat the guy who drove his car off the trailer without pulling out the ramps, but would come in second to the guy who took off the top of his motorhome under a hotel roof eave.)</TD></TR></TABLE>

I *do* think that Jon has earned the "Bonehead Move" for Sunday, unless he can demonstrate that the hoodpins suffered from mechanical failure...

Warren still wins for the weekend, however.

I had the hood fly off, break the windshield and rear hinges, due to my failure to secure the 2 Dzus fasteners. It was soon after a new paint job, too.

Our local Tidewater Sports Car Club has (had?) a "Bummer of the Month Award". It consisted of a toilet seat bottom that the winner had to wear around his/her neck.

I don't think I ever won it, but I am probably lucky I don't have an award named after me...
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 05:14 PM
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That sucks. Add me to the list of guys who had it happen on the road but mine was at about 50 mph about 20 years ago in a '62 Corvair. Mine came up but the roof line had so much structure that the glass was fine and the hood folded over the top line of the windshield. I flipped it back down but the front 18 inches went up at a 45 degree angle. I yanked some old speakers out of the back and stole the speaker wire as tie down rope, bounced the hood into submission, and tied it down. That was the second to last time the car ever drove when I took it home. I sold it for parts the next week and drove it to it's final destination loaded with all the spare parts.

Glad you got it shut down that calmly without hitting anything.
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 05:22 PM
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Default Re: DONT FORGET TO CHECK YOUR HOODPINS !! (bulldog_RS20)

I have the same rule. Whether it's in the garage, the trailer, or the paddock..........the hood goes down the pin goes in !!!!!

However, for whatever reason, this wasn't done. I still think someone looked under the hood sometime Saturday for whatever reason, but in the end I should be checking it in the paddock before going out.

I raced for 5+ years and this has never happened.

The frustrating thing was that I had never raced at Beaverun and lerned the track in wet conditions (practice and qualifying) and then really got my first useful session during the race (dry conditions). Jon Marhefka was a full second and a half faster but I wanted to see how close to that time I could get with three more sessions.

The hood is toast and the top of the roof is dented up but at least the window frame and A pillars are unmoved so basically I need to drop a windshield in.

Cheers,

Jon

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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 05:49 PM
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Because I knew this would happen to me sooner or later... I bought one of those bright red aircraft style "remove before flight" tags and I keep it clipped on the hood pins whenever I open the hood as a reminder. Knock on wood, it has been working.
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 05:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Track rat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Because I knew this would happen to me sooner or later... I bought one of those bright red aircraft style "remove before flight" tags and I keep it clipped on the hood pins whenever I open the hood as a reminder. Knock on wood, it has been working.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Good thinking...

I was considering the same idea for the wheels - flag on = wheels not torqued. Especially when I have crew help.

I also suffer from a mild case of OCD, so I'm always asking the workers on grid to double check the hood when I'm strapped in...
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 06:06 PM
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As a crew member I go around the car on the grid before the session/race and lay my hand on every hood pin to make sure they are in place. Check all the doors and hatch or whatever that could fly open as well. Unfortunately the hood flying up on a race car is not all that uncommon and the damage is usually pretty significant as others here have said.
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 06:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sean O'Gorman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Fortunately I shouldn't have this problem with either of my cars since my Civic the hood opens the opposite direction (yes its that old) and the MR2 has the engine in the back. </TD></TR></TABLE>

so you've got one of the good civics
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 07:18 PM
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Blake and I lost an Enduro last year because of the hood pins. He'd qualified the car 12 spots in front of the 2nd place ITC car and things were going great... until Blake hit the Road Atlanta Back Straight and noticed the pins flapping on their wires. Yes, we were quite lucky that the aero was apparently good enough on a '91 Civic that the hood didn't open, but the pit stop on lap 1 to put the pins in placed us DFL and 1/2 lap behind a 65 car group.

Blake caught the pack and moved up to 3rd in class, then we goobered up the pit stop and driver change and managed to lose 52 seconds... going back to DFL. I managed to get us back up to 4th in class by the time the checkered flew. Talk about throwing away a race... We took the award hands down that day.

It was one of those deals where we don't even remember who the last person under the hood was. Spilled milk.

Renee and I now have what we call "The Big Four" that we go over before we pull out of the paddock spot and head to grid... "Gas, Lugnuts, Hood Pins, Air Pressure."
Its a good habit to get into.
Oh, and there's a "Hood Pins" sticker on the dash these days.

Scott, who wouldn't even consider leaving the pins out as a candidate for a bonehead award because it happens so damned much.
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 07:33 PM
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After my hood up incident, Our team now puts the hood pins in the window net hole. This way you can't put the window net up without the hood pins in!
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Old Jun 9, 2004 | 01:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Fastom &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">After my hood up incident, Our team now puts the hood pins in the window net hole. This way you can't put the window net up without the hood pins in!</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's good thinking!
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