Could this be why my clutch isn't working?

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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 12:40 PM
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Ok to recap, I installed an act clutch in my 89 hatch. The clutch is for the 90 models so I also had to replace the flywheel with one from a 92 or 93 I believe. I also bought a brand new throw out bearing and I used a clutch tool to align the disk. Well when I was all done my car would start but I couldn’t put it into any gears as long as the car was running. If I turn it off, I can go through all the gears no problem. If I start the car in gear it will jerk violently and shut off. Well today I took the tranny out and double checked everything and I can’t see anything wrong. The only thing I can think of is the disk. Oh yea the pressure plate was new but the disk I installed was used. It's an act 6 puck disk and I’m wondering if the disk is wasted could that cause the problems above? I know when the disk is slipping you can still put it in gears but it just revs without catching, but this is not the case here. Well I took a few pictures of the pressure plate and disk. Let me know if you guys think the disk is the problem here. Oh yes I did adjust the clutch cable and I’m pretty sure the clutch cable is not bad.



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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 12:42 PM
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Default Re: Could this be why my clutch isn't working? (dan4g63)

Did you try starting the car in 2nd gear? When my clutch cable was out it did the same thing.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 12:47 PM
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No i only tired 1st gear. Why would it matter if its 1st or 2nd gear? Before i changed the clutch, the cable was fine and im looking at it right now and it looks ok. I had a friend go through the gears and i wached the cable to make sure it pulls up on the clutch arm and its working fine.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 12:48 PM
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Default Re: Could this be why my clutch isn't working? (dan4g63)

is that how you installed the clutch and pressure plate?

the hub of the clutch has that "extension"... that "extension" is suppose to face the gearbox... NOT the flywheel.

in other words, in the picture, the clutch should be flipped over and installed.

if it was, then ignore what i just said.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 12:52 PM
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Default Re: Could this be why my clutch isn't working? (Driven)

No the clutch and disk were not installed as shown in the pictures. The "extension" was facing the gearbox. What do you guys think of the disk? Does it look ok? To me it looks usable but this is the first time using a 6-puck so I don’t know much about them
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 12:56 PM
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Default Re: Could this be why my clutch isn't working? (dan4g63)

I had the exact same problems/symptoms when i did my clutch. It turned out to be the cable adjustment, but you said you already checked that. Hope you figure it out.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 01:06 PM
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Default Re: Could this be why my clutch isn't working? (unltdacc12)

I know what you mean. I also replaced my friends clutch with an act but his clutch/disk was for an 89 so I didn’t have to change anything else. When I first started the car I had the same problem but after adjusting the cable, it worked. I tried adjusting the cable on mine for over 2 hours with no luck.
Oh I can also fell the pressure of the act plate in the clutch pedal so that another reason why I think the cable's fine.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 01:26 PM
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Default Re: Could this be why my clutch isn't working? (dan4g63)

do the splines match up? id count them, on the input shaft of the tranny, and the clutch disc and fly wheel.


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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 01:33 PM
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Default Re: Could this be why my clutch isn't working? (slowpokesi)

are you a tard? if you knew any thing about honda d series in a ef or crx then you would know that there was a change in splines between the years of 89- and 90! 88 to 89 is different also!
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 01:47 PM
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are you talking to me shitface?

i also find it horibly ironic that your calling anybody a tard, when you spell vtec with an H
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 01:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CR-V-tech &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are you a tard? if you knew any thing about honda d series in a ef or crx then you would know that there was a change in splines between the years of 89- and 90! 88 to 89 is different also!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually, 88 is 21 spline, 89 is 20 spline with a 200 mm disc, And the rest are 20 spline, With a 212mm disc. Check your info before you show your ***...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slowpokesi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> do the splines match up? id count them, on the input shaft of the tranny, and the clutch disc and fly wheel.</TD></TR></TABLE>

He said he has had it all together, So obviously it all fits...




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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 01:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h8tred &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Actually, 88 is 21 spline, 89 is 20 spline with a 200 mm disc, And the rest are 20 spline, With a 212mm disc. Check your info before you show your ***...

He said he has had it all together, So obviously it all fits...

</TD></TR></TABLE>

yah, but would the 90 disk fit on to the input shaft of the 89 tranny. his car could be an 89, but with a 88 tranny if the car was made like in september of 88 sometimes they will label the car as a 89.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 03:53 PM
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Default Re: Could this be why my clutch isn't working? (slowpokesi)

Regardless, Short of smashing it on with a hammer, It wouldn't fit at all.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 04:04 PM
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Default Re: Could this be why my clutch isn't working? (h8tred)

Dan, Personally I think it's your pressure plate, or the clutch cable. The clutch is staying engaged. You say you checked the cable, But it could be stretched.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 04:19 PM
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Default Re: Could this be why my clutch isn't working? (h8tred)

what about the throw-out bearing... was that installed properly?

what about the return spring for the TOB?
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 06:00 PM
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Default Re: Could this be why my clutch isn't working? (Driven)

As “h8tred” stated 88 is the only one with different spline count. The clutch disk matches the input shaft on the transmission. The throw out bearing was installed properly and so is the return spring. It was the first thing I checked when I took it out today.
I called ACT with the part number on the pressure plate and they told me with the 90+ flywheel it should fit my car so this leaves the clutch cable. I guess I’ll bite the bullet and order a new clutch cable. Does anybody know where I could get it for a good price?
And thank you all for the replies.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 06:23 PM
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Default Re: Could this be why my clutch isn't working? (dan4g63)

i just replace my clutch for the first time and had similar problems. when the clutch is reassembled put it into gear and then push on the clutch and have some see if they can push you. in my case i couldn't be pushed so i readjusted the cable and now it works i had to tighten it alot more than what i first thought. i hope this helps.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 06:38 PM
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Default Re: Could this be why my clutch isn't working? (coot_er)

Do u feel any pedal pressure when u press the clutch pedal in?
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 07:06 PM
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Default Re: Could this be why my clutch isn't working? (fourthgenhatchB17)

just my .02 but you said that when you put it in gear, and start it that it will gerk.... well the clutch is working .... i just think it is the cable.... like you said, the clutch is together right... so that just about could only be it..... good luck.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 07:37 PM
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Default Re: Could this be why my clutch isn't working? (fourthgenhatchB17)

Yes i feel pressure when i press the clutch in. And as far as adjusting the cable i went from one end to the other and it still didnt work.
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 07:54 PM
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Default Re: Could this be why my clutch isn't working? (dan4g63)

when i installed mine the tesion on the cable was a lot different than what it was when i had the stock clutch. with a racing clutch it is alot stiffer. personally if you think you had it together right it is probably something to do with the clutch cable. maybe you need a new one, like i said mine was ALOT harder to push (disengauge). if you put it back together do what i said earlier in the post above.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 06:37 AM
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Default Re: Could this be why my clutch isn't working? (coot_er)

Find anything out?
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