I got a 93 hatchback and i want to do an engine swap.. I want to put in an H22 with turbo but many people tell me i should go with the Gsr turbo.. which is a better way to go??..

 

in a straight line race the h22 w/ turbo will murder a GSR w/ turbo
too lazy to type out explanations

 

NA is best! All motor B18C1/C5 is the way to go homie.....if u insist on FI then id roll with the boosted b18c1....imo u gotta have handles, h22 is heavy as hell and kills ur handling..

 

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Geez..... have you driven a turbo B18C (or B20) setup on a road course and then a NA H22A setup in the same hatchback? The H22A is more responsive and more predictable around turns. The turbo setup (with a big T3/T04E turbo) would spool up late and put down too much power when you don't want it on certain turns.... takes more practice to get used to on a road course. A turbo kit added on maybe adds another 40~ish lbs to the front while a H22A swap is about 70~ish lbs more than a reg B-series swap.

To the orginal poster... get whatever you want and what you'll be happy with. Either setup will be quick/fast and have good pull, but if you want the "cool" factor or "whoa" factor, then you need to decide on what's going to float your boat more so.

 

handling will be fine if you get the proper setup....and yes, they make setups specifically for h22a civics now........

h22a turbo would be better for so many reasons.......the knock on the h22a is the FRM sleeves it has stock...if you're building for turbo, get it sleeved and then you have a badass setup.......why mess with a high strung b18 when you can have power everywhere with the bigger 2.2

 

I agree with HUBB on the fact that if you insist on going FI, the B18C1 is better. From all the threads I've read about FI in this forum (not the FI forum), the H22 is not a very boost friendly platform at the get-go. I remember reading something about weak cylinder sleeves I think. However, you could build an H22 to be a better platform, but it would be a major investment. If you looking for a good boost platform at the start, I think the general consensus on the board is the B16, B18B, and the B18C1. I would suggest searching the archives in this forum as well as the Forced Induction forum.

 

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does not know what he's talking about.

I'd personally would go gsr turbo because it can take more abuse than the H22(stock that is)if it were built motors then H all the way.

 

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does not know what he's taking about.

thanks homie

 

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It's not the cylinder walls. It's the pistons since they're made of a softer material. That's also why you hear about the ring lands collapsing on the Prelude pistons with high boost applications.

 

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It's not the cylinder walls. It's the pistons since they're made of a softer material. That's also why you hear about the ring lands collapsing on the Prelude pistons with high boost applications.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Turboed B and D series engines crack their ring lands just as often.

A ride in a turboed H23 is what got me interested in turbos. I say go with the H.